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I never thought I'd say this--but thank God for Barbara Walters. I have been waiting patiently for the election's narrative to shift from pigs wearing lipstick to the issues, but I never thought that the usually grating hosts of The View would help supply it. On a day when Obama launched fresh, stronger ads taking on McCain, Sarah Palin's husband was subpoenaed because of "Trooper-gate" and Palin finally admitted that she had indeed once supported the "Bridge to Nowhere"--The View made the front page of the New York Times website. Why? Because unlike so many other mainstream journalists right now, Barbara Walters actually did her job yesterday.
John McCain appeared on her show Friday morning in an obvious atempt to pander to its audience of mostly middle aged, white women. According to recent polls, the choice of Palin as a running mate has helped McCain make serious inroads with that demographic and he must have assumed an easy, softball interview on The View would only continue to improve his fortunes. Especially since the show features one of his most unambiguously eager beaver supporters, right-winger Elisabeth Hasselbeck. But instead the show's only experienced journalist, Barbara Walters, flanked by entertainers Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg took John McCain to task on a host of real issues like Palin's experience (or lack thereof), abortion and earmarks. To say that McCain was floundering would be a tremendous understatement. Take this exchange and analysis from the New York Times for instance:
Ms. Walters also noted that Mr. McCain and Ms. Palin have said that her job will be to reform Washington. But, she pointed out, Mr. McCain has been in Congress for 22 years, the Republicans have been in the White House for eight years, so who, exactly, is Ms. Palin going to reform?
"The Democrats have been in charge of both houses for the last two years," Mr. McCain replied.
Pressed, he added: "The Republicans, the Democrat party, even the independents. She'll reform all of Washington."
How?
"By doing what she did in Alaska."
What, exactly?
Ah, the art of the follow up question! Charlie Gibson, are you taking notes? I love how McCain thinks that by just saying they're going to reform Washington over and over again that this is somehow a sufficient explanation of his policy. Also I guess what we're supposed to glean from his defense is that Washington was just fine until two years ago, when the big bad Democrats took over and everything went straight to hell. Oh, and this is the same Democratic Congress that McCain assures us he can work with in a more effective, bipartisan way than Barack Obama. Yeah, right. But I digress...
"First of all, earmark spending, which she vetoed a half a billion dollars worth in the state of Alaska."
But she also put earmarks in, Ms. Walters noted.
"Not as governor she didn't," Mr. McCain said.
But as governor, she did. As the Anchorage Daily News among others, has reported, in Ms. Palin's first year as governor, she requested 52 earmarks valued at $256 million, and this year, her office asked the Alaska delegation in Washington to help land 31 earmarks valued at $197 million. Also, Citizens Against Government Waste ranks Alaska as having received the "most pork per capita" of all states this year.
Terrific! Yet another McCain lie has been exposed. Now what? Will the Times or some other news outlet put McCain or at least one of his surrogates on the spot about it? At one point on The View, Joy Behar emotionally and honestly told McCain to his face that his both infamous "sex ed" ad and sexism accusations were lies. McCain could only defend them by saying "Actually, they're not lies" (Yes, they are) and by suggesting Obama's ads are just as bad (No, they're not). He then went on to make an absurd defense of negative ads that he continues to keep making--that if only Obama had met him in town halls like he'd proposed, he never would have implied he was a pedophile who doesn't care about his country and only wants to elevate his celebrity status. C'mon, you've got to be kidding me!
I do believe, especially in retrospect, that Obama should have agreed to the town halls--if only because it would have forced McCain to talk about the economy before the cameras and remind everyone how awful he is at it. But McCain shouldn't be given so much leeway, he ought to be held responsible when he blatantly lies. If only Behar or Walters could have said, "No actually Obama supported children being taught about how to avoid sex offenders," kind of like our own Ari Melber effectively did on MSNBC this week.
It's not enough to just report as the AP, The New York Times and many others have done that McCain is lying about the Bridge to Nowhere, earmarks, Obama's tax plan, Obama's legislative accomplishments, sex ed programs or lipstick on a pig. Someone needs to sit McCain down and make him tell the truth. Does he not know that Sarah Palin asked for and received millions of dollars worth of earmarks? Or is he just lying? It can only be one of these two possibilities and it doesn't make you a biased, flaming liberal if you force McCain to pick one.
Whoopi Goldberg has now more thoroughly vetted Sarah Palin than McCain ever did and Barbara Walters has at least gotten the ball rolling on putting McCain on the spot--and somehow, that makes me kind of sad, since their show is not exactly a place where people go for substantive hard news. For once, the mainstream media seems to be hip to the fact that the McCain's campaign is playing them for a bunch of saps, now they just need to do something about it. The other day I saw a CNN report where they were openly saying that the McCain campaign was pushing the pig "flap" to keep voters and the media from talking about the economy--I thought, wow, I totally agree with you--so why are you letting him get away with it?
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I hoipe Barbara gets a one-on-one with Sarah Palin. I think she would show Sarah for what she is--a rank amateur in over her perky little head.
Posted by EvelynU at 09/13/2008 @ 01:26am
Notice MAASCH can only attack "The View" hosts and NOT the substance of what they revealed?
Posted by yutsano at 09/13/2008 @ 02:08am
...and they came off as the vicious rabid dried up frustrated menopausal lunatics that they are,..trying to sound edjacated on the constitution.. I think they all need to get laid... Posted by JOMAMMA at 09/13/2008 @ 01:27am
<i> and... </i>
I think Palin would emphasize the truth as to what an old dried up windbag who should have retired 15 years ago that Barbra is... Posted by JOMAMMA at 09/13/2008 @ 01:31am
Hmmmm...sexism and ageism in full flow. If the three women in question are "dried up" and "menopausal", what exactly is old-enough-to-be-great-grandpa McCain? If Barbara Walters should have retired 15 years ago, how many years ago should the fossilized, out-of-touch Republican candidate have retired?
Many people who hate Bush still prayed for his good health because they knew what was waiting in the wings should anything happen to him. Should the current Republican ticket actually triumph, watch for a replay!
Posted by oneworld at 09/13/2008 @ 02:24am
The Sarah Palin sugar high has begun to wear off.
Pretty soon the blood glucose levels are destined to plummet --as the bad publicity begins to swirl around the Palin clan's hypocrisy riddled past (see Mother Jones magazine for example)-- and the game will be pretty much over.
It promises to be entertaining.
Stay tuned, folks.
Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/13/2008 @ 02:43am
By the way, SNL is starting its new season tonight and it's a fair wager that Palin will be in for a pretty good drubbing.
Personally I'd love to see them bring in Megan Mullally of Will and Grace fame to play Palin, but there are rumors that Tina Fey has been in consideration.
Anyway, with Michael Phelps guesting, the show ought to bring in a rather large audience.
Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/13/2008 @ 02:49am
These are intelligent & well informed people, the View panel. Don't patronize them.
But do note that if they were each being paid $5 million per person by their network -- instead of bupkes in the twilight or dawn of their careers -- they might have shown a bit more -- deference, shall we say -- to guest liar McCain, lest they run a risk of not having $5M contracts renewed.
That's how the "substantive news sources" are kept honest -- once bought, they stay bought. Any deviation from the corporate owners' & ad time buyers' interests & they're out of pocket millions.
Posted by sloper at 09/13/2008 @ 03:19am
yay bawbwabwawa!
git him!
Posted by dexter666 at 09/13/2008 @ 03:51am
History tends to repeast itself. Once, again, when hope heads south, a woman steps up to the plate to spark, stimulate and spare our floundering collective ass.
Without guts, substance is irrelevant.
Thank you for your courage, Ms. Walters.
Posted by bobforer at 09/13/2008 @ 03:54am
McCain's handlers have proven quite adept, at least lately. I therefore suspect that the candidate's appearance on that bastion of sagacious introspection and insightful discourse, The View, was arranged with a special purpose in mind. The campaign certainly expected--and urgently wanted--a drubbing, and they got it. And then some. The flaying of the candidate helps keep alive the narrative of outrageously unfair attacks by the forces of the Establishment, especially the MSM, further demonstrating to fair-minded Americans the biases of those who control the flow of "information" in our society and also garnering more sympathy for the GOP ticket. A simple and beautiful strategy that plays on the weaknesses, the blindnesses, of one's opponents.
In order to keep this narrative of persecution alive, the flames need continual stoking--SNL must produce an absurd, intensely degrading, and preferably obscene skit or two about Palin (for incessant reuse in McCain web commercials, discussion on the cable news networks, etc.), McCain should travel the late nite talk show circuit to receive further brow beatings (again for reuse), and the campaign should do whatever is possible to keep Barry and his acolytes from overcoming their currently rattled mental state.
Will the Establishment keep falling for it? Yes indeed.
Posted by feinfein at 09/13/2008 @ 04:20am
In order to keep this narrative of persecution alive, the flames need continual stoking--SNL must produce an absurd, intensely degrading, and preferably obscene skit or two about Palin (for incessant reuse in McCain web commercials, discussion on the cable news networks, etc.), "
Thanks for the reminding me of the place to be tomorrow night. Upon first glimpse of Palin, I chuckled while thinking, "wow, there's more than a handful of SNL women veterans up to the task."
My question is not whether Palin will be parodied, but who will do it.
Tina Fey comes to mind. So do others. Regardless, it should be fun, and hopefully, kn the larger sense, revealing.
Posted by bobforer at 09/13/2008 @ 04:28am
I have to admit. Im getting a political hard-on, when Uncle Fester and Caribou Barbie get caught up in their littany of lies. "Oh what tangled webs we weave, when we practice to deceive". These two pretenders will swiftly transcend themselves into the biggest joke in election history.
I think even the most faithfull GOP workin class idiots will start scratchin their heads. This might be the start of a great awakening of the masses of people who vote consistantly against their own best interests. This pair of jokers have been so preoccupied with attacking Obama and inciting the "Angry Black Man" response that they forgot about covering their asses on all the lies!
Im feeling more and more confident about November with every lie they tell. We nedd to keep them talking, they dig their own grave with every word. Absolutely Wonderfull!
Posted by chaoszen at 09/13/2008 @ 04:34am
The only thing right now that could actually inspire me to dance in the streets, is if hurricance Ike would wipe out all the oil refineries in Galveston cause extensive damage to drilling rigs in the already dead gulf and spike the price of gas to about $6.00 a gallon.
Then maybe the Dems would reconsider this drill, drill , drill fiasco.
Posted by chaoszen at 09/13/2008 @ 04:56am
Wonder what "Gods Plan" is for south Texas? Maybe a little hint that we should be concentrating on renewable energy instead of raping "Gods" planet. Hmmmm.
Posted by chaoszen at 09/13/2008 @ 05:15am
Time for the Obama team as well to move the spotlight OFF Palin & firmly on to McCain & the GOP record on the Big Issues.
Knowing how to send email isn't a big issue. It's petty.
Get back to the Big Issues & stay there fighting. In Obama's case, always with an engaging smile, never with dismissive remarks. That's Biden's job.
And yes, why aren't the Clintons more active. Not an entirely rhetorical question. Let Bill go before those blue collar audiences & bat it out on the GOP record, give Bill the chance to sing the praises of his 8 years, and the Dem promise.
Posted by sloper at 09/13/2008 @ 06:21am
A VERY simple question for JOMAASCH, LVLIB, HAPPY, Darin, PONTI, etc....
Did McCain tell the truth here?
"But she also put earmarks in, Ms. Walters noted.
"Not as governor she didn't," Mr. McCain said.
Yes or no? Simple question. Is what McCain said...true?
(Please feel free to dodge, bob, weave, spin, bring up Obama/Biden/Pelosi/Bill Clinton/Ted Kennedy/Michael Moore/Whoopi Goldberg....and not answer....and yet show what the answer is!)
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/13/2008 @ 07:19am
Here's hoping that more and more sensible, dispassionate and level-headed journalists will understand the critical choices that confront us in this election and will do their job for this democracy before it's again too late. The more these incompetent Machiavellian charlatans are exposed the better we'll be.
Posted by WeldonRobeson at 09/13/2008 @ 07:42am
Geez, even gramps can't move beyond his talking points. Thought that mindless response act was limited to Caribou Barbie. Guess I was mistaken.
The fact that whack jobs (Rio Loco, LL) and cheerleaders (JM) begin to denigrate the messengers of the obvious means that maybe the masses are getting sick of the thin, insipid Kool-aid they've been asked to swill.
Takes something a bit stouter to wash down a mooseburger I guess.
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/13/2008 @ 08:01am
I have to agree with JOMAMMA that the View is a rotten forum for a serious discussion of any issue. But wasn't that the point? The McCain camp has clearly placed its candidates in what it considered safe TV spots with the View and Charlie Gibson.
Posted by HAL9000 at 09/13/2008 @ 08:10am
Can't stand the heat....don't schedule an appt in the kitchen. Go down to the basement instead I guess?
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/13/2008 @ 08:15am
"The View" has 3 libs and 1 conservative. That's standard for all networks.
By the way, when was the last time anyone asked that fumbling idiot Obama any tough questions?
Seems jughead is going to get the Geraldine Ferraro pass all the way through to the elections.
Barak Obama our first affirmative action president.
The French and Germans will be so excited.
Posted by bleedingheart at 09/13/2008 @ 08:27am
"By the way, when was the last time anyone asked that fumbling idiot Obama any tough questions?"
Posted by bleedingheart at 09/13/2008 @ 08:27am
I think it was immediately before we all lost our way and started focusing on the Alaskan non-Phenom.
Unbelievable. Ask tougher questions please.
Posted by HAL9000 at 09/13/2008 @ 08:40am
Hey HAL,
Why don't you do us all a really nice favor and cut off "bleeding heart's" life support?
1. P-E4.......
Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/13/2008 @ 09:11am
The harder the press beats Palin the more the Repub's poll numbers rise.
Just read an arrogant, condescending article in the SFC, "Are You An Elitist?". The gist of the article; MAKE FUN OF FLYOVER COUNTRY
Come November, as Malcom said, "The chickens will come home to roost."
Posted by bleedingheart at 09/13/2008 @ 09:14am
Come November, as Malcom said, "The chickens will come home to roost."
~bleatin' heart
Your master ("Mal-com") is a monster.
Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/13/2008 @ 09:19am
"The harder the press beats Palin the more the Repub's poll numbers rise."
Posted by bleedingheart at 09/13/2008 @ 09:14am
I guess this is nothing new. Once again the party-line mirrors and the wedge issue smoke completely fool the spectators at the magic show.
Posted by HAL9000 at 09/13/2008 @ 09:30am
Posted by bleedingheart at 09/13/2008 @ 09:14am
Translation-
"If you don't support Sarah....you hate America, hate women, and want the terrorists to win!!!!"
LOL
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/13/2008 @ 09:33am
"Why don't you do us all a really nice favor and cut off "bleeding heart's" life support?"
Ahhhhh.....
The tolerance of the left..
How refreshing.
Posted by bleedingheart at 09/13/2008 @ 09:35am
"If you don't support Sarah....you hate America, hate women, and want the terrorists to win!!!!"
Hey....
Seems one half does hate the other half.
The press crucified Hillary.
All of the terrorist's targets are in blue states.
OK.... I'll buy it.
Posted by bleedingheart at 09/13/2008 @ 09:40am
"The tolerance of the left..
How refreshing."
~bleatin' heart
I'll take a wild stab and suggest that you've never seen "2001: A Space Odyssey".
I repeat. Your master is a monster.
tinyurl.com/4n44dh
Your master.....your master is a monster Your master.....born of a yolkless egg Your master.....he has dominion over animals Your master.....he walks the world entrail diviner Your master.....and when the stars are right Your master.....he locks the door behind the door behind the door
Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/13/2008 @ 09:45am
What the hell, the spaces are dull today.
Here's a blast from '72:
tinyurl.com/3p8sdk
"So grab your rose and ring side seat, We're back home at Conry's bar The blond girl with her tattoo, Reds and wine, cokes of course........."
Many fine and unusual tunes on this record.
Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/13/2008 @ 10:13am
Well I am stunned. I expected much less. Nice going Barbara and Joy and Whoopi. Thank you. Now keep it up. Elisabeth has been allowed to run wild. Her comments about Michelle Obama during her introduction of Cindy (Stepford) McCain was enough. Lies are lies. Lies are not partisan. I would also love to see Barbara Walters take Palin apart one on one. Now let's see if Palin has the guts to take her on. Cracking myself up thinking about the hours of briefing she will need before that interview.
Also cracked up thinking about McCain trying to justify the ridiculous pig lipstick ad. Ok now let's imagine the SNL skit about pigs tonight.
Oh yeah be sure to tune into SNL about 3 minutes early as those idiot networks love to start their shows a few minutes early. When will Comcast DVR's figure that one out?
Posted by jennyjenny at 09/13/2008 @ 10:23am
One more for good measure:
tinyurl.com/4pdjbp
70's rock-n-roll in fine feathered form --love the piano backing and scorching guitar work.
Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/13/2008 @ 10:26am
"Elisabeth has been allowed to run wild. Her comments about Michelle Obama during her introduction of Cindy (Stepford) McCain was enough."
~JennyJ
I think Behar said it best on Larry King the other night, "Isn't she cute?".
Not much to add --she's got nothin' under the hood.
Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/13/2008 @ 10:32am
Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/13/2008 @ 02:49am
Actually the actress that played Stifler's mother in American Pie, Jennifer Coolidge, sounds just like Sarah Pilan and would make for an appropriate emblem to embed into the American psyche.
Posted by hsuBfools at 09/13/2008 @ 10:39am
By the way, if anyone here is looking for some refreshing commentary on what Barack Obama is likely to be about, check out the laudably incisive and always challenging magazine, "ISReview" --available online of course.
Intro:
"This issue of the ISR comes on the cusp what will likely be an historic event--the election an African-American president. The election also marks a political changing of the guard, away from the failed policies of the Bush administration and of the Republican party, toward something different. There are reasons, however, to question whether anything else about this election will be so groundbreaking. In his article on Obama and the coming elections, Lance Selfa explains that Obama's campaign represents more a triumph of style over substance. "While marketing himself as a candidate of change, he is assuring the movers and shakers of American politics that he is committed to a status quo hardly different from what we have known at least since the end of the Cold War."
Lance's second article, "Can the Left Take Over the Democratic Party?," is a chapter from his new book The Democrats: A Critical History (Haymarket, 2008). His key argument is that rather than effecting any change in the party's essentially pro-capitalist character, efforts to change the party from within always end up being vehicles for extinguishing third-party movements by "keeping hope alive" in the Democrats."
~And by all means, get out there on September 20 (next Saturday) and knock on some doors about the wars and help us all "wake up America!".
(See the campaign sponsored by Move On, Democracy for America, Peace Action et al.)
Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/13/2008 @ 10:48am
Here is info on the million doors campaign:
www.peace-action.org/iraq/campaigns/milliondoors.html
On September 20, peace activists will mobilize to knock on a million doors in communities across the country. Our mission is to ask our friends and neighbors to contact Congress to bring about a swift and responsible end to U.S. military involvement in Iraq. READ THE PETITION
We've protested, we've sent emails, and now, we're going to get other voters to join with us to end the occupation. Please sign up here to get your materials...and save the date September 20 the day we mobilize a million voters to end the occupation of Iraq.
The action combines the best of grassroots activism and support from the netroots. The campaign will allow tens of thousands of volunteers to download a neighborhood "walk list from the coalition website. The volunteers will use this public information to talk to and identify neighbors who oppose the Iraq war and will invite them to join the efforts to end the war.
As of August 12, MDP coalition partners include: Catholics United, Cities for Peace, MoveOn.org, Pax Christi USA, Peace Action, Progressive Accountability, United for Peace & Justice, USAction & TrueMajority.org and Win Without War.
Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/13/2008 @ 10:56am
b_kool .... thought the title of this one fit Palin much better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpCB-0d42-g
(and kinda forgot how much I liked BOC)
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/13/2008 @ 10:57am
LOC,
I wasn't even thinkin' of Palin per se when I was rippin' "bleatin' heart", but you're on target with the "beautiful as a foot" link.
An addictive, bizarre and lilting tune with a prophetic reference to a "guernsey cow".
Well done.
Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/13/2008 @ 11:09am
Bottom line concerning McPOWhowmanyMANSIONS: his clear desperation to disregard children's safety from predators by abusing it as a tool of distortion, belies his very own series of documented molestation and now its adherence to behavioral conditioning that perpetuates its very cycle of existence-- and especially telling is the molestation by the new con repubs that wish to continue our current petty corporate dic'tatorship form of government.
It's not enough that McPOWhowmanyMANSIONS is now totally for torture, has lobbyists running his own campaign-- he now has become a total representation of all his abusers-- he is the face of his own deception: another convert in line with other perverted Rovian disciples; an evil cancer that is spreading the cycle of abuse and molestation to our nation and the world; until nothing is or can ever be believable again, no distinction of right and wrong, only winning.
Remember to rule the world, one must first convince the world that making it ever weaker, is always and without question, the right thing to do.
Posted by hsuBfools at 09/13/2008 @ 11:15am
The moose respond to Palin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC7YqXbBJS0
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/13/2008 @ 11:42am
So, asking the conservative "adults" here to point me towards some of Palins policy statements has proved futile. Why is that cons? You guys say you want to have a serious discussion, but you can't even find a basis for that discussion. You have attacked "the media", the "left" accused "the left" of being children, called Obama a "zebra", a magic negro", The Messiah" and other grown-up names, but have yet to even point out the policies of his that you don't like, comparing them to Palins for instance.
I guess I will keep pointing out your rank hypocrisy and desire to fall in love with a brunette that speaks well, but offers nothing but platitudes and happy talk from God.
(I finally figured out why Palin is scared of Barak, she heard he is a Mooselum!)
Posted by crabwalk at 09/13/2008 @ 11:45am
(I finally figured out why Palin is scared of Barak, she heard he is a Mooselum!)
~sidewinder
Ouch!
You just shot my sensibilities.
;-)
Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/13/2008 @ 11:54am
Palin claims Alaska "produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy." That's not true.
Alaska did produce 14 percent of all the oil from U.S. wells last year, but that's a far cry from all the "energy" produced in the U.S.
Alaska's share of domestic energy production was 3.5 percent, according to the official figures kept by the U.S. Energy Information Administration. And if by "supply" Palin meant all the energy consumed in the U.S., and not just produced here, then Alaska's production accounted for only 2.4 percent. -FACTCHECK.org
Posted by crabwalk at 09/13/2008 @ 11:56am
Posted by crabwalk at 09/13/2008 @ 11:45am
CRAB, CRAB, CRAB....don't you know how it works?
To ask Sarah Palin for some policy statements ...is "sexism".
To question John McCain's veracity when he says something that was demonstrably false...is "more liberal smears".
To question a right-winger's intellect when they say things like "Obama is a Muslim Marxist jigaboo"....is "engaging in the typical left-wing name-calling!"
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/13/2008 @ 11:56am
You just shot my sensibilities. ;-) Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/13/2008 @ 11:54am
Ms. Palin can dress that wound for you. what else she can do is anybody's guess.
Oh, wait, that's not fair. She can:
Lie
obfuscate
inflate her accomplishments
pander
preen
maybe she can raise her 1st grandchild, at the age of 44. It used to be that the "right" would attack such people as morally questionable parents. Not anymore. It was horrible that Bill accepted oral sex, but it is honorable that Bristol will have a bastard child in Cheneys house. Maybe Bristol will even use the lesbians former room.
good thing the cons are resolute in their commitments to moral absolutes like teen sex and homosexuality.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/13/2008 @ 12:04pm
To question a right-winger's intellect when they say things like "Obama is a Muslim Marxist jigaboo"....is "engaging in the typical left-wing name-calling!" Posted by Maskdelta at 09/13/2008 @ 11:56am
I can do that.
fcking hypocrites!
sheep.
god and gun clingers (false indignation here, "we do NOT cling to God and guns!! But, did you know that Ms.Palin can field dress a moose and she attends a "real" Christian church?)
Hey, does anybody know when the Assembly of God does the snake thing? Is it in the same program with speaking in tongues (which is "mainstream"!)
Posted by crabwalk at 09/13/2008 @ 12:09pm
Sorry, "commitments AGAINST"
teen sex
and
homosexuality, including lesbians raising children outside of the sanctity of marriage between one MAN and one WOMAN. They WILL NOT stand for such activity in God's favorite country! (Brian -"Quagmire, doesn't "country" have an "o" in it?"...Quagmire-"Nope...giggity giggity")
Posted by crabwalk at 09/13/2008 @ 12:13pm
If only I knew what Palins stance was on OPEC, then I could drop the allusions to Bristols moral corruption.
But, nobody can tell me how Sarah Palin, pitbull with lipstick and a hockeystick, will handle the King of Saudi Arabia and his well funded support for AQ, or how she will stand up to (well practiced) Ach-min-i-jaed, other than not "second guess Israel" or how she will fix the healthcare system in this country that has 1/2 of all bankruptcies originating with illness, or how she will strengthen the military while fighting 2 wars that will be 6 years old if she gets to be a neither executive or congressional part of our federal government.
So, I guess I will have to keep asking her how the "teaching moment" of her own family experience relates to guvt policy, and how it was that someone so smart started a $13,000,000 building on land with a title dispute, and why was she for the "bridge" before she was against it, and why she spent $230,000,000 of HAPPYS tax dollars on a road nobody uses.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/13/2008 @ 12:22pm
In honor of Sarah Palin, and the great state of Alaska, I am now going to go bbq a HUGE pork butt! Maybe not the largest per capita though.
Reform those republicans, you republicans! about time someone tried.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/13/2008 @ 12:33pm
If Sarah is having such a hard time with the elitist liberal media, how is she going to handle Al Qaida? By blowing up the NYT?
Posted by crabwalk at 09/13/2008 @ 12:37pm
Posted by crabwalk at 09/13/2008 @ 12:13pm
Interesting how the repubs give one another a pass on such things. Isn't J. Edgar's name still on FBI headquarters?
Posted by Sorelish at 09/13/2008 @ 12:52pm
jomamma-Actually,Palin isn't beating the MSM.Mostly she is avoiding them and we know why after she did rather poorly in the interview where she showed that she had little idea of what was going on outside of Alaska.AQ will never be running from Palin or any other POTUS.They will continue to do what they do no matter who is POTUS.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/13/2008 @ 12:57pm
Posted by JOMAMMA at 09/13/2008 @ 12:48pm
Funny .. seems to most she's hiding under the bed like a child running from Mom and the castor oil....sometime she's gotta come out and take her medicine.
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/13/2008 @ 1:08pm
MAASCH, in order to be beating the MSM like a red-headed stepchild, she first of all has to grow the huevos to take them on. After Grandpa's dressing-down yesterday, watch ABC's access get restricted now. That seems to be the pattern (I mean really, canceling on LARRY KING???).
Posted by yutsano at 09/13/2008 @ 1:19pm
This election is over. Absurdity won. Meaning and reason both lost. Posted by Zero at 09/13/2008 @ 1:04pm
Yep.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/13/2008 @ 2:02pm
Do all of you christians beat your step children if they have Devils hair?
Oh, wait, it is just a phrase, like "Pig on a lipstick". Wouldn't wanna start a media frenzy over a well worn phrase, now would we? That would detract from the time Palin spends laying out her objectives as Vice President.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/13/2008 @ 2:06pm
The only thing the MSM seems to be having a hard time doing is FINDING Sarah Palin.
Tell me Oh Great Bidness Man, JOMAMMA, would you spend $13,000,000 to build a building on land with no clear title? See, I only have interests in about 20 properties so I guess I don't know that much about such things. Maybe you do.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/13/2008 @ 2:12pm
It is quite obvious that people on the left know far more about Obama's and McCain's views than people on the right know.In fact,people on the right have to,constantly,be told to look up Obama's views which they,obviously,never do.It is,also,quite obvious that people on the left know more Palin which is why the right runs away from questions about her, as we see on here on a regular basis..
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/13/2008 @ 2:48pm
Devoted to you.
It's night, the fall of an absent caprice leaves in the country a sullen behaviour, the sound of a fancy and always that care, like a beautiful fortune.
Francesco Sinibaldi
Posted by Sinibaldi at 09/13/2008 @ 4:06pm
CAN WE SAY RACIST ASSHOLE?
Who are these people? Do you even read the articles here?
I'm trying to imagine what critical journalism has to offer a non-critical thinker like "fukU".
Yes, God Bless the White Christians of the United States of Amnesia.
Posted by HAL9000 at 09/13/2008 @ 4:32pm
For a slow day at The Nation, it's enjoyable to get the cryptic followed by the not so cryptic.
Sinibaldi:
It sounds interesting whatever it is.
Hannity:
You're too damn obvious boy. Can you possibly compose something worth a few femto-seconds of cogitation time?
tinyurl.com/5lxwrc
Posted by b_kool_66 at 09/13/2008 @ 4:49pm
Posted by madlib at 09/13/2008 @ 1:58pm
Red-headed step child? Nah. How about a 'she's beating them like a rented mule?' Kinda like Reagan di. Much more apt.
The MSM is in the tank for the Democrats, everyone knows it and the MSM is starting not even to pretend any more. Even Mark Penn, the Democratic pollster, is starting to complain about the blowback caused by the MSM siding with the Dems all the time. What do the people in the MSM think, that the average American is stupid and can't see through the bias? I really think they do think most people are stupid.
Posted by pontificus at 09/13/2008 @ 5:19pm
b_kool.... LOL
I see LibZ changed its pants again. Must have crapped hisself again. Tossed this iteration into the diaper pail along with all the others.
Whenever Sinbadli logs on, its always kinda poetic.
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/13/2008 @ 5:19pm
Wow, Obama's polling numbers are going down faster than a Clinton White House intern. Democrats, please continue attacking Sarah Palin. Thanks, the Republican Party.
Posted by pontificus at 09/13/2008 @ 5:22pm
We're all getting an education in what the Democrats consider to be political argument. The latest comes from radio talk show host Randi Rhodes, who suggests that Sarah Palin likes to sleep with teenage boys.
Thanks again,
Your pal,
The Republican Party
Posted by pontificus at 09/13/2008 @ 5:35pm
you blogger people are so funny. Often I feel so bad about all the terrible things that are happening-all the not so smart innocent people that have been had and are suffering and how our country is going downhill. Then I read these blogs and all the great witty name calling and I laugh and hoot and somehow feel a little better. Laughter is wonderful medicine. You guys are a lot better and funnier than SNL. You should all have your own show. Keep up the good work and thanks a lot. Just what I need. I love bad spelling too. Makes me laugh.
Posted by oneofmany at 09/13/2008 @ 5:41pm
http://mediamatters.org/items/200809120021?f=h_top
Posted by hsuBfools at 09/13/2008 @ 6:26pm
Well, if the article is correct then good for Ms. Walters and company. It's about time someone asked pertinent questions. It is a shame that the serious qustions come from a show like "The View". Unfortunately, I didn't get to see the interview. I can't stand "The View"(and I was working). It's boring as hell.
On a side note: I agree with oneofmany. Ya'll are some funny guys. My favorite is frosty.
Posted by k330k at 09/13/2008 @ 6:27pm
Posted by pontificus at 09/13/2008 @ 5:35pm
Palin the poster child of corruption and and "anti-womens' value woman" McCain might as well BE George Bush... you guys must be so proud.
(Change being defined at this time as changing the monogramming on the WH linens)
Think I'll go hurl at the mere thought of 4 more years of corrupt crony-istic bullshit... and hope the masses truly aren't quite that stupid.
But then again, I teach and I see the ignorant many. Aalthough I do my best to try and make sure they don't stay that way.
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/13/2008 @ 6:45pm
"Wow, Obama's polling numbers are going down faster than a Clinton White House intern. Democrats, please continue attacking Sarah Palin. Thanks, the Republican Party."
After Ms. Palin's interview, I have no doubt that the numbers of that pair of liers will start to go down anytime soon. Unless the prejudice and racism of the so called independents is quite an issue (which by the way is always an issue out of Republican 'Christians'). If that is the case, then our society is desperately sick and will drive itself straight to destruction because of hatred.
I can't understand why 80% of the American people would be feeling OK with Reps after 8 years of the worst administration in history with failing grades on everything imaginable. Will our countrymen realize that we deserve everything that happens to us because of our terribly poor choices in the last 30 years with the exception of Clinton?
STOP prejudice now because sooner or later power will be taken out of the WASPs because the face of America is changing. It is only a matter of time that Dems will have an overwhelming majority even where pastors fail to obey the commandment that says: "You shall not lie..."
Posted by Frank42 at 09/13/2008 @ 8:27pm
I'm still pretty optimistic the Right is going to be disappointed in 2009...
if McCain wins.
The man's ego is larger than his ideology. And he'll go "Bush-41" before he'll go "Bush-43" and see similar poll numbers.
Bad? ...sure. But not the worst. (How could he be, Dubya was the worst in the last 30 years)
But I have a feeling that the same guys drooling over Palin NOW...if she becomes Veep...will be saying "SARAH!?!?! SAY something to McCain! He's selling us out and you're smiling and AGREEING with it?!??!?"
And like Darin, they'll be dreaming of Maverick John kicking the bucket, so she can take over...but he won't. And if by some happenstance he did, she'd simply become "Dubya in a Dress" and finish it out to 2012 and ignominious defeat.
But McCain's smarter and more self-interested than is noticed. He'll sell out the Religious Right on judges...the Social Cons on gay rights....the Economic Cons on tax cuts (cuts he once opposed and can AGAIN!)....maybe even the Hawks....
if it means he keeps above a 50%+ poll rating.
So, win or lose....I think we'll see a lot of upset Righties here in a year or so.
Win or lose, we'll see a lot of upset Lefties...Obama's no FDR or Jack Kennedy...just a helluva lot better than McCain.
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/13/2008 @ 9:51pm
it is more "scary" than embarrassing..mccaininites are advocates of "free" rather than "fair" trade and global integration...who would support a constitutional ban on flag burning, the principal symbol of nationalism, even while failing to protect US jobs and industries and actively sending them overseas...who would continue Geoge W. Bush's aggressive policy of "preemption", that is, being a first strike nation against any country which is deemed a threat to American, not "imminent" threat but "a threat"...just keep in mind, in mccain's world view, we are heading to WWIII; Germany and Britain became ever-more economically integrated while simultaneously building ever larger militaries, in the same manner that the U.S. and China are currently trying to outpace each other in becoming more and more militarized, then throw in wild-card Russia for good measure, and the baby boomers might finally see the end of times that Palin discusses and believes in and that McCain is actively promoting...
I am starting to see more and more mccain posters, signs, etc, the more and more ignorant things he and palin say....it is incredulous, to say the least, that americans are so stupid, yet it is happening again, nonetheless....
the only difference in this first is China owns about half of our assets...which might pose a problem in the mccainavellian worldview...
just a thought....
Posted by jrs112 at 09/13/2008 @ 10:08pm
the view was still too easy on these scumbags...they need to really start putting their foots up their neocon asses until they tell the f*(&) truth....don't americans deserve that much???? kick all the old-time scratch my back, scratch yours good ole boys network out of washington, including mcbush!!!! git r dun
media are all a bunch of pompous windbags...I now have respect for barbara walters, but she should have pressed even further and said "no senator, you are still lying; do you really not know or are you purposely lying?? it has to be one of the two???" catch these scumbags without a script in front of them....and palin looks like a moose in the headlights when anybody asks her something not preempted or discussed ahead of time; she is all for bush doctrine by her beliefs but has never even heard of it...
in one interview she actually says "what does a vp do anyway"
try that in your next interview and then come back to the nation and discuss how it went...
if you are still voting for scumbag #1 and pompous airhead #2 who is anti feminist and anti women's rights...you should look in the mirror and see your shitty reflection staring back at you...
in this city racist fucks actually go around stealing obama signs, ignorant fucks can't even discuss coherently what they believe in!!!!
git r dun
Posted by jrs112 at 09/13/2008 @ 10:20pm
"Win or lose, we'll see a lot of upset Lefties...Obama's no FDR or Jack Kennedy...just a helluva lot better than McCain."
Why belittle him? I think he has a unique potential and everyone is different anyway. I think he would make a hell of a great president. Why wouldn't he be another Jack Kennedy?
Posted by Frank42 at 09/14/2008 @ 12:15am
Sarah Palin is the proverbial "flash in the pan". A light that burns brightly once and then no more.
She is of such little substance and knows so incredibly little about the economy or foreign policy or the environment or education or health care or jobs or financial markets or, well, just about everything not Alaska. A more insular and insulated VP candidate would be hard to make up. Curiously those who support her current candidacy seem to have forgotten the better resumes of Mayor 9/11; Mass Gov Mip Mop; Mike Huckababy; former Senator TV guy; and even Ronulus Paulus of Borg...because really, who needs vaguely qualified men when you got a pert pixie with a lot of moxie, or at least that's what I should believe, and as a woman, of course, revere.
If she were Kay Bailey Hutchison I would be worried. I don't agree with Kay, but she's a person of substance and a choice respectful of the office.
Palin suffers under scrutiny, and not under particularly close scrutiny, which is why McCain has her under wraps. But even the McCain base (media) who have been in her thrall can't seem to quite go there with McCain into crazyland and say that she's as qualified as that other Republican bright bulb Spiro T Agnew, who was, after all, Mayor of Baltimore, a town with slightly more people than Wasilla but vastly fewer moose.
My knickers are not in a twist over Palin. I predicted she would be a Democratic gift that keeps on giving, and time is catching up with my usual brash and reckless predictions.
Posted by Spotthedog at 09/14/2008 @ 01:26am
MCCAIN ACTS SO SMUG .. BUSH TREATED HIM LIKE HIS LITTLE SISSY PUNK DURING THE "2000" ELECTION.. AS A FORMER TOM TANCREDO AND DUNCAN HUNTER SUPPORTER I WAS NOT A SUPPORTER OF BARACK OBAMA DUE TO HIM NOT TAKING A STRONG STANCE ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION .. BUT DESPERATE, DO ANYTHING TO WIN JOHN MCCAIN AND HIS DOPEY VP HAVE SOLIDIFIED MY VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA. I WAS LEANING TOWARD BOB BARR BUT MCCAIN IS SUCH A TOTAL LIAR AND MANIPULATER WHO IS SO POWER STARVED THAT HE WOULD LIE AND DEGRADE SUCH A GOOD AND INTELLIGENT PERSON LIKE OBAMA REALLY MAKES ME FUME .. JOHN MCCAIN WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE WANTS TO BE A PART OF HISTORY .. HE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO SAY HE WAS PRESIDENT .. HE HAS NO PLANS TO HELP AMERICANS .. HE CAN TELL HIS SOLDIER STORY OVER AND OVER UNTIL HE IS BLUE IN THE FACE BUT BEING A FORMER POW DOESN'T QUALIFY YOU FOR PRESIDENT .. THE STORY IS GETTING REAL OLD. I'M SICK OF HEARING IT .. HEY MCCAIN, GET A REAL ISSUE TO RUN ON!
Posted by dschinz at 09/14/2008 @ 01:58am
The times demand a maturity beyond castigating individuals by generic stereotype and name-calling.
There are serious problems facing the nation and if you love the nation as an entrepreneur loves his company you should not allow your opinion to be swayed by a multi-million dollar PR campaign and demand, as any CEO would that MINIMUM qualifications for the job should be the commitment to tell the truth and the ability to recognize and acknowledge it when it is being told.
Posted by readyforprimetime at 09/14/2008 @ 10:58am
I do believe, especially in retrospect, that Obama should have agreed to the town halls--
why? just to agree to the opponents stratagem would be weak and clueless. McCain couldn't draw a crowd, Obama's strength is in numbers, he should have agreed to McCain's advantage? no way.
a selection of Clinton as VP would have been an election choice, not a GOVERNING choice. good in the former bad in the latter.
Palin is of course an election choice, not a governing choice. but has it been a good choice? no way. she has made McCain appear like Stuart Little. she has more baggage than United Airlines. she is a nasty piece of work, under ethics investigation, fer chris' sake. she is, gasp
Spiro Agnew
Posted by emile duBois at 09/14/2008 @ 11:59am
The only thing right now that could actually inspire me to dance in the streets, is if hurricance Ike would wipe out all the oil refineries in Galveston cause extensive damage to drilling rigs in the already dead gulf and spike the price of gas to about $6.00 a gallon. Then maybe the Dems would reconsider this drill, drill , drill fiasco. Posted by chaoszen at 09/13/2008 @ 04:56am | ignore this person | warn this person
you are a nutcase of the cutting off one's nose to spite the face variety. to sink the US economy would certainly result in the take over of the gov't by fascists. the worst case scenarios does not bring out the best in people.
Posted by emile duBois at 09/14/2008 @ 12:14pm
Barak Obama our first affirmative action president. The French and Germans will be so excited. Posted by bleedingheart at 09/13/2008 @ 08:27am | ignore this person | warn this person
calumny, from a shill. no more.
Posted by emile duBois at 09/14/2008 @ 12:15pm
Come November, as Malcom said, "The chickens will come home to roost." Posted by bleedingheart at 09/13/2008 @ 09:14am | ignore this person | warn this person
actually what Malcolm said was, the chickens CAME home to roost, referring to the climate of hate that surrounded the Kennedy assassination.
a climate of hate which claimed not only himself, Martin and another Kennedy, but the entire country, as it made a criminal like Nixon president.
here's Malcolm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzuOOshpddM
Posted by emile duBois at 09/14/2008 @ 12:41pm
Posted by Spotthedog at 09/14/2008 @ 01:26am
The Hard Right wouldn't have gotten "excited" (in many ways) about Kay Hutchinson and McCain knew it.
He wanted a "Margaret Thatcher If She Could Have Been a Beauty Pageant Runner-up"...not "just a woman"...or a qualified one.
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/14/2008 @ 1:21pm
Anyone read the NYT's article 'Once Elected, Palin Hired Friends and Lashed Foes' (Jo Becker, Peter S. Goodman and Michael Powell.) about how Palin hires her high school buddies to run gov't? Finally, they hired some real journalists to uncover the real story about how she governs! Yes!!
Her Dept. Ag. head, Marcie Havemeister, is just one employee away from being marooned in the everyday complexities of dealing with projects, people, and policies. If she doesn't get her way she whah's " I don't like these people and I want to replace them!" No, they don't like a boss who is clueless, unqualified, and loaded with crony fat!
Tell Ms. Walters and the girls to keep up the good work! Tell America we're not voting on Amercan Idol, but, for leader of the free world.
Anyone want to go in on some t-shirts - Obama, Made in the USA, Hawaii 1961.
Posted by alaskadiva at 09/14/2008 @ 5:17pm
My favorite racists are the BLACK REDNECKS.
Posted by bleedingheart at 09/14/2008 @ 6:15pm
"a selection of Clinton as VP would have been an election choice, not a GOVERNING choice. good in the former bad in the latter. Palin is of course an election choice, not a governing choice. but has it been a good choice? no way. she has made McCain appear like Stuart Little. she has more baggage than United Airlines. she is a nasty piece of work, under ethics investigation, fer chris' sake. she is, gasp Spiro Agnew" Posted by emile duBois at 09/14/2008 @ 11:59am
You are familiar with the American electoral system, right? In order to GOVERN, you have to get elected. You decide on the best way to win the election, then you get to govern. The best choice, then, is the one that gets you elected. I agree, that is Sarah Palin.
Face it, the Dems would launch an ethics investigation on someone who used the wrong fork at dinner. " Baggage"? Gee, is it possible that her choice as running mate triggered any and all investigations?
Posted by twillie at 09/14/2008 @ 6:54pm
Face it, the Dems would launch an ethics investigation on someone who used the wrong fork at dinner. " Baggage"? Gee, is it possible that her choice as running mate triggered any and all investigations? Posted by twillie at 09/14/2008 @ 6:54pm | ignore this person | warn this person
twillie you are a twitty, the ethics investigation precedes her VP selection by far. you can't just come around here throwing elbows, you must also have an at least rudimentary command of facts. Ok, guppy?
Posted by emile duBois at 09/14/2008 @ 7:14pm
You are familiar with the American electoral system, right? In order to GOVERN, you have to get elected. You decide on the best way to win the election, then you get to govern. The best choice, then, is the one that gets you elected. I agree, that is Sarah Palin.
this discussion a bit too nuanced for you?
Posted by emile duBois at 09/14/2008 @ 7:16pm
"to sink the US economy would certainly result in the take over of the gov't by fascists. the worst case scenarios does not bring out the best in people." Posted by emile duBois at 09/14/2008 @ 12:14pm
"nuanced"? Sounds rather funny coming from someone this delusional.
Don't make a silly statement about making a choice between an "electable" vs. a "governing" VP. It's not that complicated. You pick the person that gets you into office. OK, schl-emile?
Posted by twillie at 09/14/2008 @ 7:55pm
Alaska lawmakers OK subpoenas in Palin investigation Todd Palin, the husband of Gov. Sarah Palin, and her aides may be called to determine whether she improperly pressured a state official to fire her former brother-in-law, a state trooper. By Stephen Braun, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer September 13, 2008 ANCHORAGE -- A panel of Alaska legislators voted Friday to authorize subpoenas of the husband of Gov. Sarah Palin and a group of her aides to determine whether she improperly pressured a top state official to fire her former brother-in-law, an Alaska state trooper.
The decision by the Alaska Senate's Judiciary Committee gives an independent investigator, Stephen Branchflower, the Legislature's legal backing to seek testimony from Todd Palin and 11 gubernatorial aides.
I'm sure this had NOTHING to do with her selection for VP, emile.
Posted by twillie at 09/14/2008 @ 8:11pm
Don't make a silly statement about making a choice between an "electable" vs. a "governing" VP. It's not that complicated. You pick the person that gets you into office. OK, schl-emile?
still too nuanced for you. selection of the VP is not the key to getting elected, it is a factor among many. the prospect of governing, and this affects the people who will vote for you, is another factor. Obama made a reasonable choice in Biden. McCain made an outrageous choice. will america want him at the helm?
the selection of Palin is another hail Mary pass, everything on one big roll of the dice. the meme it's not about issues sank like a stone, so what do they have left? clean out Washington? that's a punchline, not a program.
Posted by emile duBois at 09/14/2008 @ 8:46pm
ooh, nice cop of McCain's line about Obama's tire inflation statement.
Funny about hail mary passes. They win games sometimes. Face it, Obama got outmaneuvered in what is a most political decision. Whether he disliked HRC personally, or just believed all the hype he has generated, he didn't think he needed her. In a campaign that has the word "Change" most prominent, he would have a hard time finding more of a hack,inside-the-beltway lifer than Biden.
Sorry if this isn't nuanced enough for you.
Posted by twillie at 09/14/2008 @ 9:32pm
here is some nuance. Obama represents change and the selection of Biden, a safe insider, acts as counterweight to Obama and reassures those who do not want change to go too far.
you have your ax to grind and see nothing but that. that makes you a repug and a crashing bore. what is there to discuss.
Posted by emile duBois at 09/14/2008 @ 10:30pm
McCain and Palin are repeating talking points over and over because the stupid American electorate is giving them a free pass. They are relying on Diebold to steal the election again, so why bother? They have a point. The stupid American electorate pretends they don't know that 34 states still have voting machines that can be hacked into without anyone knowing it. Zimbabwe is better.
Posted by mystic at 09/14/2008 @ 10:42pm
I hope that if there is any question about this election being fixed there will be riots in the streets. Honestly, I'm a pacifist and I found myself eyeing my rock collection the last time around. If Grandpa and Barbie win anything but a straight race there is going to be a plate glass window with my name on it and it will probably belong to a Limbaugh lovin' Republican.
I mean seriously, what can the law do to me that the government isn't doing already? Job, home, freedom-all in jeopardy at this point.
Property crime? First offense at my age? How bad can it be? I'm weighing the idea.
Posted by Pogge at 09/14/2008 @ 11:10pm
what a bunch of sad sacks you people are. You know Jesus was a community organizer and he was also pro life.
Posted by apoorspic at 09/14/2008 @ 11:26pm
what a bunch of sad sacks you people are. You know Jesus was a community organizer and he was also pro life.
Posted by apoorspic at 09/14/2008 @ 11:26pm
He was a community organizer, he was pro-life. But there's no indication that he was anti-choice (doesn't seem to show up anywhere in any of his discussions),and every indication that he was a feminist. However, the so-called "pro-life" movement in America is nothing more than anti-choice, and is definitely not pro-life. These people support the GOP, which has long been the Death Party in America. Over 4,000 dead American servicemen and women. As many as 1.2 million dead Iraqi civilians in this despicable Republican war and occupation. Some of those were doubtless pregnant women. These "pro-lifers" couldn't give a rat's ass about that. It's not abortion to which they object - it's women making reproductive choices. They're fine with forced abortions - Tom DeLay, for example, had no problem with that in the Northern Marianas sweatshops. And the GOP has no problem with forced abortions by bombing in Iraq. One cannot, in this day and age, be both Republican and pro-life.
Posted by jmusolino at 09/15/2008 @ 02:13am
BaBwa WaWa?
Posted by CHIP THORNTON at 09/15/2008 @ 08:17am
I understand for her second interview Palin, ready to step in as CIC at a moment's notice...tough as nails....no fear....
is going to be interviewed by Sean Hannity!
LOL!....think she'll get those hardball, no holds barred, feet to the fire questions like...
"Is that chair comfortable?"
"My favorite Presidents are Reagan and Dubya...how about you?"
"When liberals attack you, doesn't that prove how hateful they are?"
"Why do you, unlike your opponents, love America so very, very much?"
"Can you do all the wonderful things you did for Alaska, for the rest of America?"
"Thank you, Governor Palin, so much for coming on my show...will you come back when you're Vice-President????"
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/15/2008 @ 09:23am
Posted by JOMAMMA at 09/13/2008 @ 11:57pm
MAASCH, how much REAL power and influence do Vice-Presidents usually have?
You think Palin will be "another Cheney"? Essentially "Co-President" with McCain?
or even Gore...a close advisor given a "big job" like "Reinventing Government"?
or more likely another "Dan Quayle"?
Be honest.
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/15/2008 @ 10:14am
Once again Jom's partisan lack of of ability to view reality. I don't know what you were watching Jom, I only saw part of this and I have never watched an episode of The View before, but Walters ripped McCain apart. Half of the time he didn't even know how to respond. Instead of coming back with intelligent reasoned responses he came back with childish, "yes it does", over and over again until he could make something up. Say what you want Jom. But I can tell by the way you are insulting them that you saw the same thing I did. You just won't admit it because you are too partisan to concede to "the enemy".
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 09/15/2008 @ 12:23pm
I was surprised at how quickly Walters back him into corners about his lies. She was quick to expose him over and over again. I think the author is right in saying that McCain was expecting a softball interview. He didn't get that. Kudos to someone for finally doing their job instead of just lobbing easy questions.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 09/15/2008 @ 12:29pm
Musta been kinda painful for the old warhorse to get bitch-slapped by Baw-bwah" LOL
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/15/2008 @ 12:39pm
McPOWhowmanyMANSIONS say bye to the McMav.
McFlipFlopperMaximus say bye to McPOWhowmanyMANSIONS.
McLiar say bye to McFlipFlopperMaximus.
Who is this guy? Does he, himself, even know which lie he is anymore?
He simply doesn't care anymore. It all about winning.
Thus he deserves to lose.
That's the only honorable thing he has left to do.
Posted by hsuBfools at 09/15/2008 @ 2:39pm
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 09/15/2008 @ 12:29pm
Now, if they can just get somebody like Walters at that last "town hall"-style debate in October.
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/15/2008 @ 3:45pm
Now, if they can just get somebody like Walters at that last "town hall"-style debate in October. Posted by Maskdelta at 09/15/2008 @ 3:45pm
That would hilarious.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 09/15/2008 @ 4:37pm
"here is some nuance. Obama represents change and the selection of Biden, a safe insider, acts as counterweight to Obama and reassures those who do not want change to go too far. you have your ax to grind and see nothing but that. that makes you a repug and a crashing bore. what is there to discuss." Posted by emile duBois at 09/14/2008 @ 10:30pm
Ah, yes. Dismiss those who disagree with you. It saves you from any real insight into your own intellectually bankrupt statements. Obama represents change, but picks a safe insider as a counterweight to change. I can only shake my head at the logic. If putting some thought into my statements makes me a crashing bore, I plead guilty. There, now you can dismiss me as not worthy of your effort.
Posted by twillie at 09/15/2008 @ 8:39pm