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RedditSarah Palin is an able liar, as her acceptance speech showed. She may be a coward, too, at least when it comes to facing down the reporters she blasted from the comfort of that solitary podium in St. Paul.
The McCain campaign has admitted to a ban on most press interviews for its largely unknown but popular running mate. McCain's aides are selling this highly unusual approach with rank contempt for the public. "Who cares?" laughed Nicolle Wallace, when pressed on why Palin won't take questions by Time's Jay Carney, on MSNBC. "But I mean, like, from who, from you?" she added, incredulous at the very idea of Palin taking questions from Time's Washington bureau chief. "Who cares? No offense," she added, "who cares if she can talk to Time magazine?" (Of course, it was Time's Jay Carney who had that "prickly" interview with McCain last week, which enraged his aides.) Booman Tribune reports the strategy in action this weekend:
The McCain campaign is literally going to try to sell Sarah Palin as a credible president without letting the press talk to her. For example, this Sunday, Barack Obama will appear on This Week with George Stephanopoulos, John McCain with be on Face the Nation, and Joe Biden will be on Meet the Press. Sarah Palin will be reading briefing papers in Alaska.
It's a big challenge for the press: Scrutinize Palin without access and correct her falsehoods during an all-out partisan war on the media's coverage, including heated charges of bias and sexism. That's tough, even if you're not sympathetic to reporters. And then there's the troopergate investigation, where Palin is tapping her inner Cheney to duck investigators' questions. It doesn't look like Palin will tackle any tough questions, at least until the Vice Presidential debate, unless there is a political cost.
Journalists should report on this press blackout as news in itself -- it is a big deal that after 8 years of Bush-Cheney secrecy, the G.O.P. is running a VP candidate who won't even make a pretense of answering questions from the press or investigators -- and activists can make the blackout an issue. The Nation has learned that MoveOn.org, for example, is launching a new "clock" counting how long Palin refuses to "talk to the press."
Ultimately, with proper coverage and pressure, voters can make a judgment about what Palin's actions as a candidate tell us about her character. She talks tough about reporters, but can't face them; she talks up government ethics, but won't answer an investigation under oath; she raves about her own pit-bull image on stage, but betrays a cowardice under actual pressure. In some ways, she is living out the very caricature that she drew of Obama last week -- all talk, no action -- coupled with the smug attitude of her predecessor, the sarcastic swagger and faux-populism of George W. Bush.
Update: Joe Biden raised Palin's press ban in his Sunday appearance on "Meet the Press," as Politico reports:
Biden challenges Palin to take questions
Joe Biden is accusing the McCain campaign of sequestering Sarah Palin, his counterpart on the Republican ticket, and challenged her Sunday to sit for network interviews. "She's a smart, tough politician," Biden told Tom Brokaw in a "Meet the Press" interview live from Wilmington, Del. "So I think she's going to be formidable. Eventually, she's going to have to sit in front of you like I'm doing and have done. Eventually, she's going to have to answer questions and not be sequestered. Eventually, she's going to have to answer on the record"...
MSNBC Clip:
Happy-Since you mindless followers became instantly energized by someone who most never heard of explains why you would be willing to vote for someone who hides and who you will,still,know next to nothing about.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 12:57pm
Happy-As you know,I don't have a Joe Biden.I would if he was the POTUS candidate,but not as VP.You guys had a mindless knee jerk reaction to the Palin choice and there is nothing that any of you can say now that would show that you are capable of thinking.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 1:19pm
"Given her need to bone up on major national & foreign policy issues, I don't think Americans would take offense....."
Which kind of suggests that she is unprepared for the office, and thus unqualified.
"I'm voting for the man I've supported since December, John S. McCain!"
And you're also voting for the judgment that selected Palin as the VP nominee.
Posted by brunowe at 09/06/2008 @ 1:21pm
Happy-In other words,Rush told you to support her so you did..
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 1:31pm
Happy-So,your reaction to the Palin choice was knee jerk rather than Rush induced.That's just as bad.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 1:39pm
>>>Palin is tapping her inner Cheney to duck investigators' questions. It doesn't look like Palin will tackle any tough questions, at least until the Vice Presidential debate, unless there is a political cost.<<<
I think we should start a SECRETIVE SARAH campaign in the media with the title WHAT DOES SHE HAVE TO HIDE? This would force her to confront why she is the only one of the 4 candidates on either ticket that is not talking to the press.
She did cite EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE like Bush and Cheney in refusing to release emails to a bi-partisan investigation of her firing of her state public safety commissioner because he wouldn't help her carry our a personal family feud with the ex-husband of her sister.
This really is MORE OF THE SAME that the vast majority of Americans have had enough of and explains Bush and Cheney's 33% approval rating.
Posted by Metteyya at 09/06/2008 @ 1:54pm
here, angry white guys of the right and the christofascist baby factories from whom they came or to whom they are married! here's your moose shootin', red meat eatin', party line totin', "eleet librul media" bustin' and avoidin' milf poster girl of the right! please feel free to download the sara palin rightwing milf of the year screen saver and order the pinup poster to put in your tool shop/gun room!
but don't let her out to answer tough - uh, i mean..."sexist eleet librul media persecutory" questions!!! them damned "elite librul" press operatives might catch her telling the truth in classic rightwing fashion - ie LYING!!!
not only is this woman an incarnation of all the most shallow, non-sequiter, anit-intellectual crap vomitted forth by the think tank fascist propaganda cartel over the last 30 - 40 years, but she is also the personification of the rightwing fundyvangelist christofascist tactic of projeced intolerance and manufactured, in-your-face bulshit martyrization!
ooooooh! reporters asking the same hard questions they would ask anybody are PERSECUTING poor mrs mooseburger! they are sexist! THEY ARE THE EVIL BAD GUYS! WHEN WE PLAY DIRTY POOL ITS OK BECAUSE ITS US AND GOD LOVES US - BUT WHEN DEMONIC NON CHRISTOFASCIST/NON RIGHTWINGERS DO IT....
PERSECUTION! UNFAIR! MARTYRDOM!!!!!
what a typical pile of festering, fly encrusted rightwing lies, superficial talkingpoint bullshit, and idiot manipulating turdage...
but what does one expect from these lying, treasonous, rightwing, fascsist traitors?
pathetic...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 09/06/2008 @ 1:57pm
Let's see, 70+% of the American people see and understand that the MSM is clearly behind the Democratic ticket and those same people should demand Governor Palin take questions from them? Why not have her sit down and take questions from the Democratic National Committee? That is where they would be getting their questions from anyway, why not cut out the middle man?
The media should not be as interested with Governor Palin's current reluctance to answer their questions as they should be of Senator Obama's reluctance to debate Senator McCain.
Posted by Next Door at 09/06/2008 @ 2:18pm
dexter666:
And what is your point?
Posted by sntauri at 09/06/2008 @ 2:24pm
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um...pretty much what i said. whats not clear?
Posted by dexter666 at 09/06/2008 @ 2:33pm
Posted by Next Door at 09/06/2008 @ 2:18pm
Come on! Right wingers have their own news channel in Fox News.
They also seem to get a lot of subtle help on CNN in how they slant the issues so that they favor McCain.
That's two out of the three cable networks.
Posted by Metteyya at 09/06/2008 @ 2:40pm
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but i thought foxnews was fair and balanced...thats what they say...
LMAO!!!
Posted by dexter666 at 09/06/2008 @ 2:42pm
Sorry dexter666, the blazing sarcasm and profound use of grammar and punctuation left me so dazzled I missed the message. Apparently you are upset about something.
Posted by sntauri at 09/06/2008 @ 2:44pm
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lol - i'm not half as evil as my sputtering and snarling seem to indicate. i just love lampooning the worst of the rightwing in hyperbole and rage.
plus its a good way of flushing out my inner frustration cache. good for the soul...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/06/2008 @ 2:48pm
Investigation into Palin Now on Fast Track Sources Tell ABC News that Report Will Be Released Almost Three Weeks Early By LEN TEPPER September 5, 2008
ABC News has exclusively learned that Alaska Senator Hollis French will announce today that he is moving up the release date of his investigation into whether Gov. Sarah Palin abused her office to get the Alaska public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, fired. The results of the investigation were originally scheduled for release Oct. 31 but will now come almost three weeks earlier, according to sources.
Posted by Metteyya at 09/06/2008 @ 2:48pm
Saint Sarah a liar? nah. Michelle Bernard says that she can't answer real journalist questions because she has to go home and see her sun off to Iraq. Eh, o.k.what is she doing on television live with, "when I was a pow McCain," at a rally.
I don't get it. when the media was not paying enough attention to McCain he was whining about it. Now that the media is trying to pay attention to McCain he is whining about it.
I have buddies who came back from Viet Nam without legs and arms and they aren't running for president. Max Cleland couldn't get any sympathy from the Republicans. I know some kids coming back from Iraq that are really messed up.
I have eaten moose, bear, rabbit and dear, can I be a senator? No, I haven't sold a state jet at a loss sorry. and I don't know anyone a British Petroleum,so they probably wouldn't pay for my inaugural ball.
Posted by lachatte at 09/06/2008 @ 3:03pm
Sarah Palin is a Bimbo with a capital "B".
And if the Bimbo with bosoms like JOMAMA cannot control her tramp-slut daughter and within the confines of their hot-house breeder household, how in heck will the Bimbo ever be able to confront bin Laden, Putin, OPEC (etc, etc)???
Posted by PhilMcCrevice at 09/06/2008 @ 3:12pm
Golly Metteyya, what a great scoop. Hey, you forgot to mention that Hollis French is a democrat, didn't you? Why is that?
More pressing issue, is that going to be enough time for forged documents to be produced? I mean, remember what happened to Dan Rather!
Let me ask you this, what if the left's efforts to destroy Palin are unsuccessful? What if you discover her actions were actually something most voters could support and relate to? I mean, like, what are you going to do then? All move to Canada? Blame Obama's defeat on racisism? (Oh wait, sorry, that's a given.) Push voter fraud allegations, as usual? My guess is you'll kick and scream and complain how stupid Americans are.
Gosh, this country would be so better off if everyone just did what the left sees fit... Multiple millions of us aren't buying the crap your slinging at Palin. This must be a real nightmare for you. Oh and guess what? There's more dirt on Obama and Biden than Palin and you can rest assured your side isn't the only one digging. I think the Democrats should be careful what they start. Don't forget Hillary's motivations either. Think her people don't have some good dirt on Obama?
How she spells potato isn't going to cut it.
Posted by freiheit1 at 09/06/2008 @ 3:13pm
Happy-That was quite sad.Under no circumstances should a politician use their power to get involved in a family matter or use their power to resolve a family matter.You turn that over to other authorities to handle in the same way judges excuse themselves if they are personally involved.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 3:13pm
Posted by PhilMcCrevice at 09/06/2008 @ 3:12pm | ignore this person | warn this person
watch out pat mcgroin! now yer gettin mean!!!! you might hurt someone's flimsy christofacsist feelings!!!
lol...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/06/2008 @ 3:14pm
I was there first!
http://palincounter.blogspot.com/
Posted by billthomson at 09/06/2008 @ 3:17pm
Any guesses about the price-tag of McPhoney's trophy wife's clothes and accesories when she appeared at the UnEvolved Cro-Mag Convention this past week?
(a) $300 (b) $3,000 (c) $30,000 (d) $300,000
? ? ? ? ?
Take your time ... Ready?
Answer is (drum roll): (d)!!!
Yes, it's true. These are the economic populists in touch with the nitty-gritty of deepest Pennsylvania. These are ... "Everyday People", just like the campaign song says. And "Everyday Bimbos", "Everyday Social Climbers Through Marriage With Jack Shit Accomplishments to Run After 25 Years in Congress", etc etc...
Posted by PhilMcCrevice at 09/06/2008 @ 3:21pm
Ya gotta love when HAPPY starts in with his scrambles and rationalizations....even when they contradict earlier declarations...
"Palin has nothing to hide...she just can't do interviews, because she has to spend her time 'boning up' on national and foreign policy...uh....which of course she's fully qualified to speak on NOW!...she just needs a little refreshing befor she UTTERLY DESTROYS Joe Biden in the Veep debates!!!!"
LOL!
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/06/2008 @ 3:22pm
The media should not be as interested with Governor Palin's current reluctance to answer their questions as they should be of Senator Obama's reluctance to debate Senator McCain. Posted by Next Door at 09/06/2008 @ 2:18pm
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Except for the three debates, that is...
Here we go again with the cons not being able to decide which way is up...
1st they say she is tough and experienced
then they say the corporate media is out to "destroy her"
now, apparently, she is not so tough that she can even stand up to softball questions that will be lobbed her way by librool journalists. I would think her JOURNALISM degree would suit her in such an environment, but I guess not.
I also guess that the poor, poor pitbull is afraid of the media, but Palin will certainly stand up to Iran and Russia with more chutzpah. After all, next to the US librool media (showcased by the "horrible" way they treated China a couple of weeks ago), those guys are pansies...
hee hee hee hee hee hehehehehe
yep, tough bird, that union member with a pregnant teen daughter. God! This is almost as rich as the anti-lesbian crowd voting for Cheney!!
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Dexter....is that you ibble? You Beast, you!
Posted by crabwalk at 09/06/2008 @ 3:23pm
I love this blog. It is the only place I have to come in contact with someone like dexter666. It is yet another clear affirmation of the existence of satan on earth. And the contempt evil has for humanity.
You know dexter666, the good news is maybe we will both be saved.
Posted by freiheit1 at 09/06/2008 @ 3:25pm
"Given her need to bone up on major national & foreign policy issues, I don't think Americans would take offense......"
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/06/2008 @ 1:11pm
Uh ... I think most Americans would and should take MAJOR offense at taking someone onto the national ticket who knows nothing about the job? You guys who cheerlead this are such transparent whack jobs.
ALL:
Palin .. "In Bed With Oil" (ooooo, it sounds so naughty)
http://tinyurl.com/5pobef
http://tinyurl.com/68dmkp
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/06/2008 @ 3:26pm
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/06/2008 @ 12:54pm
Use a euphemism or f___ or f*** for Heaven's sake. You are the party of grown-ups, the party of civility.
I go on vacation for a day and look what happens.....goodness, gracious.
BTW, I think I could answer questions on foreign and domestic policy, even on FOX news without completely embarrassing myself. It's policy, not rocket science. Of course I didn't call the media out like Missy Palin either. She reminded me of Gary Hart taunting the press and we know how THAT skeered them away.
Posted by Pogge at 09/06/2008 @ 3:27pm
freiheitz-his silliness proves the existence of satan on Earth?Hopefully,you are kidding.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 3:27pm
THEY ARE THE EVIL BAD GUYS! WHEN WE PLAY DIRTY POOL ITS OK BECAUSE ITS US AND GOD LOVES US - BUT WHEN DEMONIC NON CHRISTOFASCIST/NON RIGHTWINGERS DO IT....
posted by ME.
correction - generally when the right accuses anyone who disagrees with them of "playing dirty pool" the non duckspeack translation is closer to...
"telling ugly truths"
ah the nature of the beast! act shamefully and wickedly and when called out on it, smear your opponants and screech at the top of your lungs at how THEY are the liars and YOU the persecuted.
once you get enough of the marching moron class thinking that both sides are equally full of poopypoos and iniquitous...
they'll start lowering their standards for leadership and cognitively dissonancely filtering out all the inconveniantly obvious signs as to which side is the really bad one...
then brain stapled and confused, the marching morons tromp off to the voting booths happily voting for their own enslavement and destruction and the christofascist/satano-aynrando army of darkness wins again!!!!
but maybe not this time.
as a self realized oppositionally defiant evil bastard who's thrown in with the good guys (much more pleasant and safer to hang out with, by the way), this sort of stuff could not be more obvious.
you goody goody two shoes need folks like me...
lol...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/06/2008 @ 3:29pm
Hey everybody! I've just figured out how to make the world a better place, and it doesn't require a "commuhnetee ourghaneyezer" either. Just use the "ignore this person" feature to filter out 2happy. Then you can read the comments without enduring the pain of his conservative inanity. Makes me feel all snuggly, like I'm wearing a cardigan knitted from wolf fur by a righteous hockey mom.
Posted by Citizen54 at 09/06/2008 @ 3:30pm
The GOP and McCain KNOW that Palin will crumble under real scrutiny...on issues...not even on Bristol or fluff stuff.
He did NOT fully vette her (the story is the GOP lawyers were still checking her out 72 hours after he announced her as his Veep).
And with ZERO experience in national politics (something even her fans can't spin)....they're scared to death she'll make a gaffe in the first week that will set like concrete for the next 7 weeks.
Palin isn't doing interviews for one simple reason....they either don't know or KNOW that....she can't handle it.
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/06/2008 @ 3:30pm
Maybe by the time they trot her out for a public show she will know what a VP does. HEy, HAPPY, did you ever hire someone that admitted they had no idea what the job was? Other than George Bush.
FREI, sooooo, the feds bailing out Freddie/Fannie. Whaddya think?
Posted by crabwalk at 09/06/2008 @ 3:30pm
Dexter....is that you ibble? You Beast, you!
Posted by crabwalk at 09/06/2008 @ 3:23pm | ignore this person | warn this person
maybe...
warning - they evil lefties here at the nation have invented this diabolical web thingy that allows you to post to your heart's delight for like...2 months and see your own posts just fine, but when you log out...
NOTHING!!!!
i thought i was freaking everybody out. sad and lonely...and the whole time i was just blabbing to myself. jeez...
and i was going to actually renew my subscription and maybe donate money for nuthin!
the sense betrayal is delicious and bitter...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/06/2008 @ 3:33pm
happy-I noticed that you avoided what my post said and responded with nonsense that was unrelated to my post.Do you have an response to what I said?
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 3:36pm
Posted by PhilMcCrevice at 09/06/2008 @ 3:12pm
If you think a girl has to be a slut to get pregnant you're an idiot.
If you want to criticize Palin for teaching her daughter to just say no to sex without a back-up and only supporting the same half-assed non-education for our daughters and sons, fine, but calling a kid a slut for sleeping with her own boyfriend is just stupid. Like you turned down girls in high school?
Now if you want to ponder Who is raising the four remaining children while Dad works on the North Slope for BP and Mom is busy running Alaska, I gotta say, I'm wondering that too.
Posted by Pogge at 09/06/2008 @ 3:37pm
Happy-Of course,you could be saying that judges and politicians should use their power to get involved in personal matters,but that would make you the only person on the planet that ignorant.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 3:38pm
The media should not be as interested with Governor Palin's current reluctance to answer their questions as they should be of Senator Obama's reluctance to debate Senator McCain.
Posted by Next Door at 09/06/2008 @ 2:18pm | ---------------
My god, are you people completely incapable of telling the truth? Obama has agreed to several debates with McCain. They've been scheduled for months. Has some kind of idiot hypno-ray zapped half the population? Or is it just out and out lying? Were the Germans this stupid before the Nazis took over?
Posted by Citizen54 at 09/06/2008 @ 3:38pm
MASK, she does have international credentials. C'mon, keep up... she lived next to Russia!
OK cons here we go with some more cheers;
"WE NEED A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE" (no asking about Wasilla's $22,000,000 deficit when she left office)
"VOTE FREEDOM FIRST! (except for library books)
"NO MORE PORK" ( no asking about AK being the largest per capita pork sandwich in the US)
"CHANGE IN WASHINGTON" (from George Bush's policies that we have defended for 8 years)
"EXPERIENCE COUNTS" (Except for the VP candidate, she can learn on the job. Unlike John Edwards four years ago)
"LIBERAL MEDIA, LIBERAL MEDIA, LIBERAL MEDIA. THEY HATE SARAH!! (Except for the hundreds of times McCain has appeared on the talking heads shows, the close relationship he has with reporters ON THE STRAIGHT TALK EXPRESS)
hoot hoot.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/06/2008 @ 3:42pm
CRABWALK and MASKDELTA have made sage comments about Sarah Out-Of-Her Depth Bimbo in response to the drippy, mucousy droolings on offer from the unreformed Cro-Mag 2CRAPPY. BraVo.
But I would like to ask whether anyone else is disturbed by this aspect of the Bimbo's life story: Her "tits-in-the-face" flirtation with the Alaska Independence Party began in 1996. 1996 - one year after McViegh did his sick,sick, sick rightwing terror job on OK City, when the seccesionist and militia movements were front page. That's when she joined up. What appeal did she find in of all this then - and into the present with her most recent championing of the "party" this past spring?
How much did the white-hot hate from her fundy preachers stoke these fixations with secessionism from the Us of A?
Sarah Bimbo is definately not one of us, nor does she seem to want to be. Her family? Not an "American family" either, despite Steve Schmidt owl shit talking points, unless your family enables its teenagers to be tramps (and then forces marriage on them, to all appearences, to boost the Bimbo's flagging career).
All of this is as wrong as leaving your children with the Warren Jeffs stooge RIO/RED to "baby sit".
Posted by PhilMcCrevice at 09/06/2008 @ 3:44pm
Hi Crab, I noticed on Drudgereport this morning how some kid somewhere printed up a bunch of $20 bills and was handing 'em out. Funny how that's illegal - heck a felony, yet the Fed can print up $Billions legally to bail out Freddie/Fannie, saving the banks and ruining the investors. And putting the burden on all of us. My god how we are all unknowing sheep.
I talk with people everyday who have no idea at all what a fed bailout means. They actually think it is a good thing! They have no idea that the Federal Reserve is actually a banking cartel. I find it amazing how the media talks about how prices are going up, when truth is the actual value of the dollar is going down, dilluted by the discount window and giving the illusion of rising prices (so we can blame it all on big oil!). We are all being taxed invisibly by inflation. That's how wars and bank welfare are paid for. Imagine if we all knew the truth...
That reality makes this election a joke. It makes no material difference what party is in power or who the President is.
Posted by freiheit1 at 09/06/2008 @ 3:44pm
You know dexter666, the good news is maybe we will both be saved.
Posted by freiheit1 at 09/06/2008 @ 3:25pm | ignore this person | warn this person
oh indeed! god loves none more than the self realized sociopath who dedicates him/herself to the cause of righteousness with no expectation of reward whatsoever.
HELLALUJAH!!!!
Posted by dexter666 at 09/06/2008 @ 3:44pm
...That was quite sad.Under no circumstances should a politician use their power to get involved in a family matter...
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 3:13pm
Nobody is right. First, if he was committing child abuse he should have been prosecuted. Second Palin interfering could have tainted a trial if he was prosecuted.
She should have used her big guns to get the attention of Social Services or the District Attorney. Firing the guy would not have affected his custody or visitation so what good would it do the child?
If it was true that is. I would want to believe my sister too, but have sat in on enough custody mediations to know that the people involved are not always honest, even with themselves.
Posted by Pogge at 09/06/2008 @ 3:48pm
"UNIONS ARE EVIL" ( except for Sarah Palins union)
"THERE SHALL BE NO RELIGIOUS TEST..." (Except for the The Maveriks choice for VP)
CHANGE!
CHANGE!
CHANGE!
NO CELEBRITIES !(except for Phred Thompson, Ronni Reagan)
"NO GIGOLOS LIKE JOHN KERRY" ( except for gold-diggers like John McCain)
Posted by crabwalk at 09/06/2008 @ 3:49pm
Posted by crabwalk at 09/06/2008 @ 3:49pm
Yep, that's about right ;-)
Posted by freiheit1 at 09/06/2008 @ 3:50pm
Posted by Pogge at 09/06/2008
POGGE,
Most of your post is sensible.
And, yes, we should all be clear that the poor dumb girl had the misfortune of being born into a household that clearly did not instill concepts of self respect, for all of the sanctiminous owl shit that her Bimbo mother spouts off. In fact, the daughter's situation may well be a plea for some attention. And it is now being shamelessly exploited with what looks like a totally fake marriage forced right onto the St. Paul stage in front of tens of millions of eyeballs by the Bimbo whose ambitions far exceed even her most remote dreams of talent.
Posted by PhilMcCrevice at 09/06/2008 @ 3:53pm
That reality makes this election a joke. It makes no material difference what party is in power or who the President is. Posted by freiheit1 at 09/06/2008 @ 3:44pm
Yep, except the guy that YOU voted for is the one doing it this time, and the "conservatives" want him to do it.
I can make an argument that Nader WOULD make a difference, but noooo, he is a loon. Unlike Sarah Palin, she is "mainstream", what with her secessionist husband, abstinence only m education, no abortion even if the mothers life is in danger and God's will being done in Iraq.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/06/2008 @ 3:55pm
You take the cake for taking 2 months.....ROTFLMAO! Took me about a week!
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/06/2008 @ 3:46pm | ignore this person | warn this person
yup - like i said - delicious and bitter!
i thought they would just ban yer ass up front like "men"...lol
live and learn. in a pathetic attempt at my own defence i've been busy and not posting much for about...2 months...
and stupidly trusted those i thought were cool and worthy of trust (and my hard earned money which i was on the verge of parting with for "the cause" - sheesh!)
but live and learn!!!!
Posted by dexter666 at 09/06/2008 @ 3:57pm
Posted by crabwalk at 09/06/2008 @ 3:49pm Yep, that's about right ;-) Posted by freiheit1 at 09/06/2008 @ 3:50pm
Gotta love this newfound commitment to be resolved..
hoot hoot hoot.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/06/2008 @ 3:57pm
Took me about a week!
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/06/2008 @ 3:46pm | ignore this person |
That's less time than it took you to fall in love with Sarah (no experience, pregnant teen daughter, liar) Palin.
Thou shalt not lie
Thou shalt respect thine mother and father
Suggestions only, not commandments, suggestions.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/06/2008 @ 4:00pm
Posted by PhilMcCrevice at 09/06/2008 @ 3:53pm
The danger is that people will mix up the two issues and the GOP gets the benefit of looking kind and gentle.
Even though I am not too keen on having children out of wedlock I am even less approving of a girl who is not old enough to vote or sign a contract putting herself at the mercy of a young man who may have a lot of growing up to do. After all the flap would Bristol Palin dare come forward in six months and say, "My husband is abusing me" or "My husband is cheating on me". How many adults living in relative obscurity can bring themselves to do it?
Marriages made to correct a mistake are dangerous. He may be the sweetest young man on the planet, but youth and stress can do strange things to good people.
Posted by Pogge at 09/06/2008 @ 4:01pm
The Few, The Proud, The Bitter!
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/06/2008 @ 3:56pm | ignore this person | warn this person
well despite our political differences i am proud to be a member of that club!
LMAO...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/06/2008 @ 4:05pm
BTW, what is HAPP's idolization of Palin....
if not making a "Messiah" out of her?
Again, more GOP hypocrisy.
www.thedailyshow.com and click on "Sarah Palin Gender Card" video! Rove is particularly insightful.
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/06/2008 @ 4:06pm
I've been on the road so I don't know, but the way Happ keeps talking about Barack being unprepared also....does this mean the Senator didn't show up for the FOX interview?
Not that I would ever go into that snake pit unless I had to, but he wa scheduled last I heard.
Posted by Pogge at 09/06/2008 @ 4:11pm
GRAMPA AND MRS. MOOSEBURGER!!!
he's a grumpy old ex-POW gold digger on the verge of dementia who got shot down over vietnam, divorced his first wife for a rich, young heiress, tries to style himself as a "maverick" and "reformer" despite the fact that he votes regressive 90% of the time in his senator capacity...
and she's a hot gun totin', vendetta carrying and carrying out, huntin', baby makin' church goin', mooseburger eatin' milf of a first term governer from crazy old alaska! HOOOOOOWEEE!
the laughs never end in this cutesy new FOX comedy ordered up by rupert murdoch himself!
WATCH "GRAMPA AND MRS. MOOSEBURGER" THIS FALL ON YOUR FAVORITE RIGHTWING OWNED PROPAGANDA AND POP CULTURALLY LOBOTOMIZING ENTERTAINMENT DYANAMO!
...uh...but where's mrs mooseburger? i just got the pinup and screen saver...but she doeswnt seem to have much of a speaking part on the show...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/06/2008 @ 4:18pm
Posted by Pogge at 09/06/2008
Again, you tally many thoughtful points.
However, gotta say ... I am far more concerned with the Obama campaign looking "kind and gentle" in the teeth of outrageous lies and thinly disguised racism which is about McPhoney's only hope to make this one clase - aside, from what his advisor Cofer Black said about how he thinks that a terror attack would "help" McPhoney's campaign. That comment from the command of McPhoney's campaign should be front page news.
No, Obama must get the surrogates out to rub the right's nose in all of its disgusting, sick failures from the past decade. No kind and gentle, just smash-mouth tactics and a relentless strategy that will leave some careers beyond dense smoke and ruin. Sarah Bimbo would be a good start and the goal should be to humiliate every last fiber of her so that she could not be elected dog catcher even if she wanted to try. It will not only win some elections to go smash-mouth and empower the center-left but it will put the rightist freak show on the defensive. It will blunt their sick and ghoulish will to construct AmeriMadressas with captive children and to cultivate McVeigh-like mass murderer fiends in their rightist ranks.
Posted by PhilMcCrevice at 09/06/2008 @ 4:19pm
There is blood in the water with Sarah the Out of Her Depth Bimbo.
All people who love America - yes, all 50 states, even the non-contigous ones - have a duty to humiliate and repudiate this useless piece of rightwing garbage that the Hate-and-Bankrupt-America party has foisted on the public.
The Rovian sickies, infinately better at running sleazy campaigns than governing, realize that they have a loser on their hands. Even Quayle was released from the hotel room to address audiences of 12 year olds. Not so the Bimbo.
It's not necessary to push her offf the ticket. Far better that she stays on as a huge drag and as a vivid demonstration that McPhony is a kept man, a complete hostage to the Hagge base, a divisive figure across the board.
Blood in the water. Attack relentelessly ...
Posted by PhilMcCrevice at 09/06/2008 @ 4:45pm
She will be doing an interview with Greta Van Sustren Sat and Sun at 8 PM.
http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/
I do hope Greta asks the questions you've all been talking about. I'm getting a little tired of hearing so much about her family. It's time make good on her committment to "put country first."
Posted by roundabout at 09/06/2008 @ 4:58pm
looks like our favorite deep undrcover operation chaos operative has chimed in.
i'm sooo sure barry o is about to have an apoplectic hissy fit about mrs. mooseburger...
funny how projection works, ain't it?
Posted by dexter666 at 09/06/2008 @ 5:01pm
frankNoGrits-Palin is spending time being told where Iraq is and is not avoiding the press because of her son,but you,already,knew that and made up a bunch of nonsense.And,as you know,she isn't avoiding the left wing media.She is hiding because she knows so little about anything outside of Alaska,but you knew that,too.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 5:10pm
Posted by roundabout at 09/06/2008 @ 4:58pm
Big whoop. We know she will talk to FOX news. Every winger talks to FOX news. They are never questioned by FOX news, because FOX news is there to promote them, not hold their feet to the fire.
I don't think she has the nerve to go on "Morning Joe" much less Countdown, so why should we be impressed by her willingness to have softballs lobbed at her for an hour?
As I asked before: Did Sen. Obama do Fox on Thursday? If he did I am even less impressed with the Sarah and Greta coffee klatsch.
Posted by Pogge at 09/06/2008 @ 5:28pm
As Happy says, she's very ignorant, knows so little, that's it's only fair & balanced & eminently reasonable to allow her lots & lots of study time before her one & only debate.
After all, it took the divine Sarah 6 years at 5 institutions to get a bachelor's degree in communications.
Communications.
As in, answer questions.
Posted by sloper at 09/06/2008 @ 5:49pm
Roger that. I hope that everyone can stop the personal attacks and begin to discuss the issues, myself included.-------Posted by frankgrits at 09/06/2008 @ 5:00pm |
FRANK's hoping he can control himself...or somebody else will control him?!??!?!?
LOL
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/06/2008 @ 5:58pm
FrankNoGrits-Only your imaginary left has been shocked,but you knew that,too and are just sitting on here making up one thing after another as you continue to whine,pout,and throw a tantrum over Hillary losing.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 5:59pm
FrankNoGrits-Like all of you,you don't know enough about Sarah to know if she is the real deal or not and calling her Sarah won't convince anyone that you know her.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 6:01pm
FrankNoGrits-It is good,though,that you know part of her name,now.When you first praised her you referred to her as Sarah Balin.
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 6:05pm
Happy- Bristol easy?Is that the name of a new porn star?
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 6:07pm
FG .... if her royal Moosiness doesn't start talking on Tuesday (a day after sonny is off to Operation Desert Debacle) can we call her a coward then? Its only 2 months till "V-Day" .... gotta ask questions soon, right? Or could it be she's ..... not ready to be VP *gasp*?
2Hap .... notice you ignore cogent responses....how typical.
Ibble ... welcome back bud
Phil McCrevice ... LOL do you know Seymour Butts?
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/06/2008 @ 6:15pm
FrankNoGrits-No one cares what you take issue with.Palin has never served in the military and it is quite odd that we hold women to a different standard when it comes to that,but aren't allowed to hold them to a different standard when it comes to anything else.Palin is hiding and that is a cowardly thing to do,but you don't have the courage to take issue with me so I can call her a coward..
Posted by i'm nobody at 09/06/2008 @ 6:19pm
FRANKGRITS is a long time rush limbaugh listening juju zombie dittohead who pretended to be a mainline new democrat for years and then pretended to turn into some kind of zel miller/joe lieberman quisling turncoat.
at least thats my take on the guy. nobody changes that strikingly that quick in their ideology unless they had a stroke or a brain transplant.
Posted by dexter666 at 09/06/2008 @ 6:49pm
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/06/2008 @ 5:58pm | ignore this person | warn this person
maybe he can do a zel miller and challenge folks to a duel!!!
Posted by dexter666 at 09/06/2008 @ 6:53pm
Ibble ... welcome back bud
Phil McCrevice ... LOL do you know Seymour Butts?
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/06/2008 @ 6:15pm | ignore this person | warn this person
like an angry and ignorant god (or frankgrits) i've been watching and mumbling to myself off and on the whole time...lol...
i think phil is a cousin of pat mcgroin...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/06/2008 @ 7:19pm
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/06/2008 @ 7:21pm | ignore this person | warn this person
maybe frank actually IS rush limbaugh. i mean...what else does that corpulant, pill popping, rightwing windbag have to do when not broadcasting?
perhaps he has a little fun trolling around the internet trying to get ideas for material...
who knows? maybe you are really george w. bush and i'm the remnants john effin edwards!!!!
but maybe not...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/06/2008 @ 7:33pm
Maybe some of you clicked through to FactCheck using Melber's "liar" and "falsehoods" links in the piece. You'll find there that she didn't lie, despite FC's headline and Melber's mendacity. "Nowhere" to be found is a lie about The Bridge. FC, too, failed to locate any bill "authored by Obama" (only listing the work of others on which he hitched a ride, while hiding the truth about his "'07 ethics reform" cowardice). And 'Cuda's characterization of O's tax program was spot on, they admit, while chiding her failure to mount a lefty defense of it. Weak.
Mrs. Palin has some campaign research to read in between stumps. The race is now a sprint, and I can forgive her for not sparing time right now for a media that can't even spend "60 seconds" finding out why she's the most popular governor in the country. They're apparently too busy lining up to run copies of Todd's partner's divorce papers in case the Enquirer miraculously has found their 2nd real news scoop this century (nope, just their typical scurrility, as it turns out).
Did anyone notice FactCheck's laughable attempts to discredit Rudy's speech, and his utter eviceration of Obama? Is that really all they could find? "Fighter pilot?" "Top Gun kind of guy?" WEAK. Then they score their O-points by "reporting" that Rudy didn't serve. They're getting as bad as The Nation's bloggers over there.
When the MSM finishes scouting the bilge and gets around to doing their legit homework on Palin's real record (it's there for them right now, y'know), she'll be around for quizzing. Of course, the "reporters" haven't spent much time examining Obama's real record over the last 19 months, so she'll probably have been elected President before they find out about her good work in AK. You think they'll tell us?
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 8:12pm
"Sarah Palin is the CIC of the Alaskan National Guard and gets high marks in administering her duties in that capacity. We also know her son is leaving for Iraq."
Utter nonsense. As McClatchy reported, she never mad one decision as C-in-C of the National Guard.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/ homepage/story/51665.html
Posted by brunowe at 09/06/2008 @ 8:14pm
Posted by brunowe at 09/06/2008 @ 8:14pm
I guess that means Bush is exempt from Iraq criticism, since Rummy was Secretary of Defense.
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 8:28pm
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/06/2008 @ 3:41pm
Sorry 2Hap .. missed your response before I posted my own. While it *was* a response, it was so in "space" while having no substance. Obama wasn't "coronated", he was elected by the Dems and accepted. You know like "Mumbles McSame" was. (Although it was amusing .. as noted on the Daily Show last night. JMac took his talking points from Bush 2000)
Obama has answered questions for nearly 2 years now. What her royal moosiness answered ? ... nada. Mainly because she is taking a crash course in how to answer questions she knows nothing about while the Rover boys try and sweep all the pre-existing dung under the rug.
Checkmate? Dude .. you can't "checkmate" when you're playing checkers. But thanks for playing...come again!
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/06/2008 @ 8:38pm
Here ya go Happster.....
http://tinyurl.com/6g7voa
Take notice especially at 2:09 and from 4:24 to 6:05
Posted by leftofcenter at 09/06/2008 @ 8:46pm
"Given her need to bone up on major national & foreign policy issues...."---- Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/06/2008 @ 12:54pm
Again, HAPP ADMITS why Palin isn't doing interviews.
Posted by Maskdelta at 09/06/2008 @ 9:01pm
I guess that means Bush is exempt from Iraq criticism, since Rummy was Secretary of Defense.
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 8:28pm | ignore this person | warn this person
Except that we know Bush gave orders.
Posted by brunowe at 09/06/2008 @ 9:28pm
pathetic... Posted by dexter666 at 09/06/2008 @ 2:16pm
IBBLE!
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/06/2008 @ 9:52pm
I love this blog. It is the only place I have to come in contact with someone like dexter666. It is yet another clear affirmation of the existence of satan on earth. And the contempt evil has for humanity.
You know dexter666, the good news is maybe we will both be saved.
Posted by freiheit1 at 09/06/2008 @ 3:25pm
IBBLE!
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/06/2008 @ 9:55pm
Ok, CRAB, my hat tip to you for spotting ibbleblibble's return!
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/06/2008 @ 4:07pm
no way!
i did it first.
i looked at the first post and knew exactly who it was.
so i got here late.
ibble was recognized in 0.000000002 seconds.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/06/2008 @ 9:57pm
FREI, sooooo, the feds bailing out Freddie/Fannie. Whaddya think?
Posted by crabwalk at 09/06/2008 @ 3:30pm
rice went up again.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/06/2008 @ 9:59pm
Freddie/Fannie. Whaddya think?
Posted by crabwalk at 09/06/2008 @ 3:30pm
check this out:
V. FEDERAL RESERVE POLICY AND PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS
Historians and journalists have long noted certain episodes--such as Richard Nixon's re- election campaign--when the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board (Arthur F. Burns on that occasion) acted vigorously to help an incumbent president win re-election (Greider 1988, page 343). Moreover, the idea of an "electoral business cycle" has an honorable academic history, implicating the use of Keynesian tools, especially fiscal policy, to stimulate the economy in advance of an election (Nordhaus 1974, Tufte 1978, Alesina and Sachs 1988). The idea that the Federal Reserve might engage in such behavior systematicallyix is more controversial; although it has found support in one recent paper with an approach similar to ours (Abrams and Iossifov, 2006)x, the consensus view remains adverse. Drazen (2000) provides a survey, finding no evidence of electoral cycles in real activity, inflation, money growth or the federal funds rate.
WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY NOTED THAT PERIODS OF A STEEP TERM STRUCTURE, REFLECTING LOW SHORT-TERM INTEREST RATES RELATIVE TO INFLATION EXPECTATIONS AND THEREFORE A STIMULATIVE MONETARY POLICY STANCE, ARE NOT RANDOMLY DISTRIBUTED BUT INSTEAD STRONGLY PERSISTENT OVER LONG PERIODS IN OUR SAMPLE. THERE ARE FIVE SUCH PERIODS:
1975II – 1977II: All under the Ford administration, ending as Carter takes office.
1982III – 1985IV: All in the Reagan administration, ending a year after his reelection.
1987II – 1988II: Again under Reagan, starting before the stock market crash, and preceding the election of GHW Bush.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/06/2008 @ 10:05pm
1991II – 1994IV: Beginning under GHW Bush, ending under Clinton.
2001IV – 2004III: Beginning with 9/11, continuing through the reelection campaign of GW Bush.
The pattern is reasonably plain: periods of sustained, abnormally low interest rates all begin during Republican administrations. All end following an election involving a Republican incumbent or his immediate successor. The one exception is the Nixon re- election campaign of 1972, during which there is a single quarter (1972I) of sharply lower- than-normal interest rates, but no sustained pattern.xi
http://utip.gov.utexas.edu/papers/utip_42.pdf
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You make shoppin' time lots of fun
Rubber Money, I'm awfully fond of you.
Rubber Money, joys of joys
When I print you, you buy me toys
Rubber Money, you're my very best friend, it's true!
<<<<<>>>>>
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(rub-a-dub-a-dubby)
<<<<<>>>>>
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And I'm lucky that you're mine
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RUB-A-DUB-A-DUBBY!
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/06/2008 @ 10:10pm
Suggestions only, not commandments, suggestions.
Posted by crabwalk at 09/06/2008 @ 4:00pm
whew!
i gotta work tomorrow and was worried about the smittening.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/06/2008 @ 10:13pm
maybe frank actually IS rush limbaugh.
Posted by dexter666 at 09/06/2008 @ 7:33pm
frank is forgotten.
ah......
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/06/2008 @ 10:16pm
"Given her need to bone up on major national & foreign policy issues...."----
Posted by 2HAPPY at 09/06/2008 @ 12:54pm
FROSTY ZOOM FOR VP.
OR CRAB
OR MASK
OR THRAWN
OR DEXTOR SIXSIXSIX
OR SRJ
OR POGGE
OR WOLF
OR FREI
OR EVEN THAT CRAZY AUSSIE DUDE.
HELL, EVEN CAPTAIN CLUSTER.
OR HSUB
OR OR OR
i mean really, aren't you ready?
hey haps, what's the capital of turkmenistan and how much u.s. debt does the philippines own?
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/06/2008 @ 10:21pm
Except that we know Bush gave orders.
Posted by brunowe at 09/06/2008 @ 9:28pm
maybe he just read them.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/06/2008 @ 10:22pm
Except that we know Bush gave orders.
Posted by brunowe at 09/06/2008 @ 9:28pm
Of course he did, and of course he's responsible for our foreign policy in the way only a President can be. Your point that Govs, especially new ones, can't claim this resume item, is granted. Even lawmakers can only observe and speak out on foreign affairs to build and demonstrate their wisdom.
Biden, contrary to popular partisan claims, doesn't much help Obama on this point. His FRC chairmanship is a seniority-based plum. He voted for the war of course, which Obama considers a grave mistake on the defining FP issue of our time (you too?), but his further blabber on Iraq is startlingly and irrefutably stupid. Here's a PoliSci Prof from Obama town:
*Biden chairs the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, but experts in the field do not consider him a heavyweight.*
*Policymakers do not seek his views because they are especially insightful or wise.*
*When the war turned sour, his main proposal was to partition the country into Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish regions.*
*Biden's response, in June 2007, was strong and unequivocal: "The surge isn't going to work either tactically or strategically." John McCain risked his political career to take the opposite view. He will not let Biden off the hook easily.*
http://tinyurl.com/6zaygb
You're telling yourself that Obama's tossoff speech at a 2002 antiwar rally measures up to some sort of qualification. But only one candidate in the race has demonstrated consistent bravery and wisdom on the subject of Iraq before an unfriendly audience. If you want real leadership in the presidency, there's only one place to get it this time, even if you don't like the brand. Any objective thinker can clearly see that McCain is the best choice.
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 10:35pm
Any objective thinker can clearly see that McCain is the best choice.
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 10:35pm
especially if you want more debt, fewer jobs, bigger government and larger deficits.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/06/2008 @ 10:38pm
BAGHDAD -- The Iraqi government reacted sharply Friday to published allegations that the U.S. spied on Iraq's prime minister, warning that future ties with the United States could be in jeopardy if the report were true.
The allegations appear in a new book, The War Within: A Secret White House History, 2006-2008, by journalist Bob Woodward, who writes that the United States spied extensively on Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, his staff and other government officials.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/06/2008 @ 11:03pm
wait a second!
kwame lost his job for firing policemen......
hmmm.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/06/2008 @ 11:06pm
Ari Melber is an able water carrier for the Obama campaign, as this article shows. There is no dearth of information about Sarah Palin, and numerous recent interviews with her have run on a number of channels. Perhaps she will be more willing to sit down anew with some of the more hostile interviewers and answer policy questions after the press finally finishes blathering on about her "inexperience", her hairstyle, her pregnant daughter, and her fake bikini photos.
Posted by beezdotcom at 09/06/2008 @ 11:16pm
the press isn't blathering,
they're selling shampoo and rls meds.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/06/2008 @ 11:18pm
Thanks for playing, FZ, and I'll take a minute to acknowledge your style. I'm happy (well, not 2happy, being my own man) to make the arguments for McCain on econ. No one else seems to be hearing him.
Do you know anyone who could help build oil rigs, nuke plants, and pipelines, or operate same? How about mining, hauling materials, or standing guard over the facilities? Managers? Administrators? Clerks? This is pretty immediate stuff in a McCain energy policy, and it's full-scale. Workers and US businesses both benefit ASAP.
Scientists and researchers can also continue work to make renewables productive for commercial viability.
In the pretty near future, domestic production improves our balance of trade and strengthens the dollar, doesn't it? Will it ease the market affects of speculation? Sure it will. Just have Pelosi/Reid lift Congress's off-shore drilling ban (withOUT the cover-up-release of reserve oil) and see what happens. She can even include a clause for an SPR release in case crude DOESN'T drop to $85/bbl within 6 months.
Later on, of course come the green jobs promised by both campaigns.
Housing sucks, but Obama can't magically fix this any more than McCain. It will have to fix itself, with new discipline for lenders and borrowers tragically learned the hard way by all. I'm not opposed to criminal punishment for the lenders.
McCain will increase jobs, boost the economy, and improve national security in very short order with his energy policy. It's not magic. It's obvious.
How will we get to the future if Obama stifles capital investment? More human suffering? Fewer jobs? Will our citizens chase employment in the countries with lower business taxes (like, anyplace but here)?
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 11:18pm
If you want real leadership in the presidency, there's only one place to get it this time, even if you don't like the brand. Any objective thinker can clearly see that McCain is the best choice.
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 10:35pm | ignore this person | warn this person
And the wrong decision on the war, not to mention the pandering flip-flops on taxes and the evangelicals. That's hardly real leadership.
""Nowhere" to be found is a lie about The Bridge."
Simply not true. Claiming she said "thanks, but no thanks" implies that the bridge money was turned away because it was pork. It turns out that it was Congress that removed the earmark after it became a political embarrassment. She had nothing to do with that and her timing, running on a pro-bridge platform and then changing her mind once it became an embarrassment, was clearly political.
Incidentally, the surge hasn't worked strategically. Further, co-sponsoring a bill, especially on a subject such as nuclear proliferation, is hardly just piggybacking.
"Did anyone notice FactCheck's laughable attempts to discredit Rudy's speech, "
Nothing laughable about it. Giuliani went after Obama for wanting to go to the UN Security Council when McCain advocated the same thing. Further, Giuliani did flub McCain's record, claiming he was a "Top Gun" when he was nothing of the kind. If a Democrat had made that mistake, you'd be all over it.
Regarding her work in Alaska, this is a state that is subsidized by the federal government and has benefited from an oil price spike that took place during her term as governor. Sort of like being born on third base and claiming to have hit a triple.
Posted by brunowe at 09/06/2008 @ 11:21pm
"In the pretty near future, domestic production improves our balance of trade and strengthens the dollar, doesn't it? Will it ease the market affects of speculation? Sure it will. Just have Pelosi/Reid lift Congress's off-shore drilling ban (withOUT the cover-up-release of reserve oil) and see what happens."
Depends on how you define near future. The Energy Information Administration estimated that outer continental shelf (of the continental US) drilling wouldn't have a significant impact until 2030. Even then, the estimate is only a 7% increase in oil production and no significant impact on prices and natural gas would increase 18% with a drop of 13 cents/thousand cubic feet (1,000 cubic feet = 1 MMBtu).
http://www.eia.doe.gov /oiaf/aeo/otheranalysis/ongr.html
That last isn't a huge drop as the September gas spot price was $7.26. http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog /info/ngw/ngupdate.asp
Posted by brunowe at 09/06/2008 @ 11:39pm
Oooo, tough guy, Ari... what do you think this is, a playground? Aren't you the big bully, Ari, I can just hear you clucking, your hands under your arms, "braawk, brawwk, Chicken... too chicken to go on MTP? Braawk, Brawwk... too chicken to go on Georgie's show..." What a looser.
Grown ups who call people "chicken" are generally grown up wimps, trying to bully people with words from a safe distance.
Posted by bryher1 at 09/06/2008 @ 11:43pm
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 11:18pm
give me a sec.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/06/2008 @ 11:53pm
AHAHAHAHAHAH "Happy-Since you mindless followers became instantly energized by someone who most never heard of explains why you would be willing to vote for someone who hides and who you will,still,know next to nothing about." YOU morons here that are drinking the Obama poison actually think the above post represents PALIN?????????? AHAHAHAH Look in the mirror dipshits!
Posted by AntiScreed at 09/06/2008 @ 11:55pm
Obama has been in the national spotlight for 4 years and intensely so for 2 years. If he refused to answer questions and the democrats accused everybody of racism AND he attacked the press he wouldn't be the nominee now. Hillary, as good as she is got bogged down in how unfair it all is- and make no mistake- it is unfair.
McCain-Palin can scream sexism-and there is some- but in the end you have to do the JOB. You have to answer questions, you have to show what you are made of, you have to be good and you have to have answers. Didn't many democrats say all Obama had was a speech? Still he has worked so hard the electoral map is...well..much bluer...month by month.
Right now she has a speech.
Posted by Redhead52 at 09/06/2008 @ 11:55pm
"...the christofascist/satano-aynrando army of darkness..."
Who the hell else could it have been?
Hello Ibble.
Dexter666.... a satanic nerd?
Welcome back to the world of the visible.
Posted by Malcontent at 09/06/2008 @ 11:55pm
Can someone please remind Palin that she lives in a democracy where freedom of the press is not just a theory but something we actually practice in this country?
Maybe she thinks she lives in Russia, rather than next door to it?
Nothing like sowing the seeds of totalitarianism and fascism by shutting out the press. Imagine where we'll be 50 years from now as more politicians decide this is the only way they can win an election.
During the debates, is she going to have a mysterious bulge in the middle of her back, and a hidden ear piece?
Posted by JNV at 09/07/2008 @ 12:03am
Hey, McCrevice - Interesting you should be keeping a price tally on Mrs. McCain's wardrobe, but fail to mention the total waste of $6 MILLION on the styrofoam columns alone. I'm sure the fireworks extravaganza only ups the total bill on Obama's side, among other costs. It would really have been nice to see something about all those who had paved the way for him. A video on Black History, just a little tip of the hat... Turns out he made much ado about nothing.
Posted by cookcountyIL at 09/07/2008 @ 12:19am
So the party that basically mortgaged the U.S. to China should be let alone to keep running the country?
Yeah, right.
Posted by JNV at 09/07/2008 @ 12:31am
Uh, JNV- it was your boy Bill who was in cahoots with China, selling secrets for campaign cash. You all just can't handle it that your shoe-in candidate got knocked out less than 24 hrs after his big circus, by none other than the "old guy" and an unknown (to YOU) lady from Alaska. And, it pretty much wraps up 2012, too, because by then, Palin will be swept into the Presidency. The more you all spout off, the more we know what a gamechanger she is.
Posted by cookcountyIL at 09/07/2008 @ 12:43am
Be careful what you wish for. Sarah Palin will eat Biden alive.
Posted by tomintexas at 09/07/2008 @ 12:52am
Dexter666.... a satanic nerd?
Welcome back to the world of the visible.
Posted by Malcontent at 09/06/2008 @ 11:55pm | ignore this person | warn this person
yay verily did ibblethustra get whacked by some tyranic webmaster or the nation pc commisar, and unaware wander about a bardo-like wilderness, unseen and unheard, mumbling and ranting to himself, spewing strange misspelled and grammatically sketchy tirades to no one and all...
but just when he realized his non living dilemma...POOF!
BEHOLD I HAVE RETURNED REBORN, A TRUE DEMONCRAT FARTED UP FROM HELL IN SULFUR AND FLAME AS DEXTER666. LIKE CLINT EASTWOOD'S CHARACTER FROM "HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER" I HAVE BEEN WHIPPED INTO A SHALLOW GRAVE ONLY TO SCRATCH MY WAY BACK TO LIFE TO SAVE THE SPINELESS TOWNSFOLK WHO STOOD BY WHILE I WAS BEING FLOGGED!!!
but no...i wasn't posting that much anyway. been busy...i just thought everybody had reesed me or something. dexter refers to dexter morgan, the serial killer who kills serial killers and some yahoo had already taken "dexter", and i was pissed and seething at the betrayel, so i added the 666 thing, which IS close to my birthdate (me being the effin antichrist and all...), so...
now i wish i had signed in as "dextersgrotto" but like i said, i was seething...
nice to be back!
for now...
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 12:53am
brunowe - I've held you in regard in our prior exchanges on the surge. While I still like your even tone, you've lately shown me some intellectual dodging (on AGW and this thread) that I didn't sniff before. C'mon back to principled argument. To your points:
*Wrong on war* - We disagree. The homeland has been safe. The mideast may come out better for us, if libs like Woodward will stop trying to engineer defeat. O was playing the antiwar crowd in '02; credit him with foresight if you want, but remember FISA.
*Flip flops* - You should judge records rather than campaigns, but judge fairly either way. On record, Obama has disappointed greatly here (FISA). I was a fan of his, if not a big supporter. No more. He lies.
*Bridge* - She stopped the bridge. She ditched the jet and the chef. She lowered her pay. No false points, and they're all to the taxpayer good, attributions of motivation notwithstanding.
*Surge* - You may change your mind when Obama admits, but you already know my points on the strategic success. Elections are delayed again, but I still believe the Sunni turnaround. O was as wrong as Biden on this.
*Lugar-Obama* - Sarah didn't lie. O didn't author it (or anything important), Lugar did, and it's a fluffy derivative of Nunn-Lugar. Destroy all conventional stockpiles? The troops do that every day.
*Georgia* - A quibble on timeline. McCain was first with the right answer, acknowledged the UNSC veto in his initial raft of response ideas. O was late in aping him, and missed the veto part.
*Rudy didn't say Mac was in Top Gun. I quoted him correctly. I avoid trivial attacks, I think.
*AK* - 80% Gov approval is a state record. Do residents credit Palin with high crude prices and all Fed subsidies? It's specious to dismiss without asking them.
Posted by man00ver at 09/07/2008 @ 12:57am
Glad to see Move On wasting money going after a VP pick. Whats the matter, worried? There is a clock ticking. Can you hear it? Is it getting louder? It has nothing to do with Sarah Palin. Your time is almost up.
Posted by tomintexas at 09/07/2008 @ 12:59am
sup frosty?
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 01:07am
but fail to mention the total waste of $6 MILLION on the styrofoam columns alone.
Posted by cookcountyIL at 09/07/2008 @ 12:43am | ignore this person | warn this person
hey! thats a pretty good price for good styrocollumns you birdbrain. i'm sure your christofascist/satano-aynrando repugnant idols would never spend a shitload of jack on anything gradiose at a convention!
gee - you burned us demoncrats good there!!!
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 01:30am
sup frosty?
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 01:07am
doods!
merry christmas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drMR80J1aBA&feature=related&fmt=18
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 01:55am
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 01:55am | ignore this person | warn this person
starring sherif roscoe p. coltrain!!!!
nice!
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 02:15am
I haven't laughed so much in a long, long time. If the left was really convinced that Palin was a horrible choice and that the McCain's media strategy was going to cause them to lose, don't you think that they would be cheering this on?
The fear of Sarah is everywhere, even Obama thinks he may be bullied by her!
Just like her speech at the convention, they will wait while the left continues their over the top attacks on her and when everyone is helplessly intrigued as to "how will she be able to handle the interview, the press conference or the debate?" she will come out, like she always has, and knock 'em dead.
A woman who has made it on her own, without family money, without insider patrons, without riding the coattails of a powerful man, seems to be the perfect embodiment of what the goals of feminism aim for, and yet still they demonize her.
The McCain/Palin ticket is the perfect vehicle to open up a lot of eyes to what the Democratic party really stands for.
Maverick - Barricuda -------2008--------
Posted by dualdiagnosis at 09/07/2008 @ 02:18am
Maverick - Barracuda --------2008--------
Posted by dualdiagnosis at 09/07/2008 @ 02:20am
"*Wrong on war* - We disagree. The homeland has been safe. The mideast may come out better for us, if libs like Woodward will stop trying to engineer defeat."
Except that Iraq had nothing to do with that. al-Qaida wasn't based there. Further, it isn't Woodward who has failed to push through provincial elections and the resolution of the Kirkuk issue. It also isn't Woodward who is now going after the Sunni leaders of the "Awakening". If things start blowing up in Maliki's fact, it's because he's overreached himself, not because of anything Woodward wrote.
"On record, Obama has disappointed greatly here (FISA). I was a fan of his, if not a big supporter. No more. He lies."
I, too, was gravely disappointed in what he did on FISA. That doesn't change the fact that the McCain who is running now is decidedly not the McCain who ran in 2000.
"*Bridge* - She stopped the bridge. She ditched the jet and the chef. She lowered her pay."
She did not stop the bridge. The earmark for the bridge was turned into an open grant after the issue became an embarrassment. It expects too much of coincidence to argue that she didn't respond to the same retreat under pressure that Congress did, especially as she ran on a pro-bridge platform.
"*AK* - 80% Gov approval is a state record. Do residents credit Palin with high crude prices and all Fed subsidies? It's specious to dismiss without asking them."
Not at all. Those economic facts exist regardless of whether the Alaskan electorate takes them into account. I'm not sure how much political courage it takes to oppose the incumbents when the electorate is in an anti-incumbent mood. Remember that she had no problem with pork when she was mayor of Wasilla.
Posted by brunowe at 09/07/2008 @ 02:37am
Maverick - Barracuda --------2008--------
Posted by dualdiagnosis at 09/07/2008 @ 02:20am | ignore this person | warn this person
GRAMPA AND MRS. MOOSEBURGER!!!
Posted by dexter666 at 09/07/2008 @ 02:48am
I stand corrected on Giuliani's "Top Gun" statement. He said that McCain was a "Top Gun kind of guy" who flew fighter planes. A minor gilding of the lily but still an embellishment.
Obama's statement for both sides to show restraint was actually the more logical since there had been reports that Georgia had initiated hostilities by breaking a recent cease-fire. The statement for both sides to show restraint reflected that fact. Further, both of them called for action in the UNSC. The fact that McCain mentioned the possibility of veto threats and Obama didn't is trivial.
"O didn't author it (or anything important), Lugar did, and it's a fluffy derivative of Nunn-Lugar. Destroy all conventional stockpiles? The troops do that every day."
And your claim of Obama's non-authorship is based on...? Further, enhancing the ability to round up and destroy conventional weapons isn't fluffy at all. The fact that so many conventional weapons are out there suggests that more can be done.
Posted by brunowe at 09/07/2008 @ 02:50am
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 11:18pm
Thanks for playing, FZ,
••••• no, thank you. •••••
and I'll take a minute to acknowledge your style. I'm happy
••••• freak. •••••
(well, not 2happy, being my own man)
••••• oops. you the manhoover.
to make the arguments for McCain on econ.
••••• finally someone dares. o.k., let's see. ••••••
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 02:57am
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 11:18pm
No one else seems to be hearing him.
••••• well, he seems to trying awfully hard to distract me:
""""""Number of sentences in John McCain's acceptance speech about his experience as a POW in Vietnam: 43.
Number of sentences about his 25 years in the House and Senate: 8.""""""
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo
blog/archives/2008/09/9598_mccain_ac ceptance_speech_republican_convention.html
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 02:57am
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 11:18pm
Do you know anyone who could help build oil rigs,
••••• do you?:
""""" As President Bush calls for repealing a ban on drilling off most of the coast of the United States, a shortage of ships used for deep-water offshore drilling promises to impede any rapid turnaround in oil exploration and supply."""""
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/19/business/19drill
ship.html?partner=rssnyt
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 02:58am
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 11:18pm
nuke plants,
••••• well, for example you seem to be one of those terrorfear kinda guys:
SITTING IN GREENPEACE'S STOREFRONT BUREAU IN CHERBOURG, THE REGIONAL CAPITAL 20 KILOMETERS SOUTH OF THE LA HAGUE PLANT, GREENPEACE'S YANNICK ROUSSELET RECOUNTS THE DISQUIETING EASE OF THE OPERATION. "WE JUST WAITED IN FRONT OF LA HAGUE, AND WITHIN THREE OR FOUR WEEKS WE KNEW EVERYTHING," HE SAYS. BY PROCESS OF ELIMINATION, ROUSSELET'S TEAM IDENTIFIED THE NONDESCRIPT FLATBED TRAILERS CARRYING PLUTONIUM CASKS OUT OF LA HAGUE WEEK AFTER WEEK. THE TRUCKS PULLED OUT WITH THEIR POLICE ESCORT AT THE SAME TIME AND FOLLOWED A CONSISTENT ROUTE AND SCHEDULE. STOPPING THE CONVOY WAS HARDLY MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: THE CONVOY ROLLED INTO TOWN RIGHT ON TIME; A GREENPEACE ACTIVIST DRIVING AHEAD SLOWED TO A STOP, AND 25 MORE ACTIVISTS LEAPED FROM A VAN BLOCKING THE OPPOSITE LANE TO CHAIN THEMSELVES TO THE FLATBED TRUCK. ROUSSELET SAYS THE STUNNED GENDARMES CHAPERONING THE SHIPMENT STEPPED OUT OF THEIR CARS, POPPED THEIR TRUNKS, AND QUIETLY RETRIEVED THEIR WEAPONS AND ARMORED JACKETS.
BOOM!
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/print/4891
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 02:58am
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 11:18pm
and pipelines,
••••• i sure hope it's not these folks:
""""""After Alaska, BP faces new pipeline crisis
By Stephen Foley in New York
Saturday, 12 August 2006
Environmental groups have warned that corrosion inside a controversial new oil pipeline controlled by the British company BP could trigger a massive oil spill into some of the most environmentally-sensitive areas of the former Soviet Union.
As BP battles with a crisis in Alaska, where it had to shut down the biggest oil field in the US, campaigners say that safety flaws discovered there extend also to a 1,000-mile pipeline from the Caspian Sea to Turkey.
And the company stands accused of a management culture where whistleblowers are ignored or, worse, hounded out.
BP is accused of ignoring warnings about the effectiveness of a coating it uses to slow corrosion. Critics say the coating will fail, and corrosion will quickly cause the pipeline to break open, spilling oil into the wilds of Azerbaijan and Georgia. """"""
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 02:58am
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 11:18pm
or operate same?
••••• """"""The criticisms come as politicians in Washington plan to bring senior BP executives before Congressional hearings to face questions on a string of safety lapses. Corroded pipelines in Alaska caused a 200,000 gallon oilspill - the region's worst ever on land - and BP is shutting down the entire oilfield to conduct repairs. The field represents 8 per cent of all oil produced in the US, and its closure sent oil prices soaring this week.""""""
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/after-al
aska-bp-faces-new-pipeline-crisis-411503.html
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 02:58am
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 11:18pm
How about mining,
••••• mmmmmm, arsenic:
""""""The Bristol Bay Watershed produces the world's greatest commercial salmon fishery and internationally renowned salmon and trout runs that attract anglers from all over the world. The waters in this region have long been an integral part of the State's economy and have provided sustainable jobs, subsistence foods and other benefits to Alaskans for generations
Today, the State of Alaska and Canadian mining company want to create North America's largest open pit gold mine and a 896-square mile mining district in the headwaters of Bristol Bay. At the same time, the Bureau of Land Management is trying to open 3.6 million acres of vital fish and wildlife habitat in the Bristol Bay Watershed to hardrock mining.
What most people don't know is that the hard-rock mining industry is the single largest source of toxic releases and one of the most destructive industries in America.
The proposed Pebble Mine may pose the greatest single threat to this area's salmon-bearing rivers and the people who depend on them. """""""
http://www.bristolbayalliance.com/
•••••••••••••
The Palins said that Bristol, who was named for Bristol Bay.
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Todd's grandmother grew up in a traditional Yup'ik Eskimo house in Bristol Bay and accompanied Sarah in her race for governor as she sought support from Alaska Native voters. Sarah Palin has joined her family fishing a commercial setnet site on the Nushagak River in Bristol Bay every summer.
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GOVERNOR PALIN WELCOMES LIFTING OF BRISTOL BAY LEASE MORATORIUM. JANUARY 9, 2007, JUNEAU, ALASKA – GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN TODAY WELCOMED THE NEWS THAT ...
gov.state.ak.us/archive-42315.html
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 02:58am
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 11:18pmI
n the pretty near future, domestic production improves our balance of trade
••••• hahaha. ten, fifteen years to go online. by then, the current fields will be drier than lvliberty's tear ducts. and demand will be much more. so, no that's not true.
and strengthens the dollar, doesn't it?
••••• theoretically. however, a moratorium on the CURRENT MILLION BARRELS A DAY OF U.S. EXPORTS, would help sooner.
Will it ease the market affects of speculation?
••••• perhaps some well written legislation can achieve the same goal more cheaply.
Sure it will. Just have Pelosi/Reid lift Congress's off-shore drilling ban (withOUT the cover-up-release of reserve oil) and see what happens.
••••• why didn't the SUPERMEGA REPUBLICAN'TS OF 2001-2006 do it? anybody with 1/234,567,435th of a brain could see the price of oil was gonna squirt skyward.
She can even include a clause for an SPR release in case crude DOESN'T drop to $85/bbl within 6 months.
••••• you wanna cheaper oil? FIND A BETTER MONETARY POLICY AND DON'T START NEEDLESS WARS.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 02:58am
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 11:18pm
Later on, of course come the green jobs promised by both campaigns.
••••• THE FUTURE IS NOW!
••••• i hate that term, "green".
••••• promises??? every campaign since nixon has promised ENERGY INDEPENDENCE.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 02:58am
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 11:18pm
Housing sucks, but Obama can't magically fix this any more than McCain. It will have to fix itself, with new discipline for lenders and borrowers tragically learned the hard way by all. I'm not opposed to criminal punishment for the lenders.
••••• the glass-steagall act of 193something fixed it the first time.
Posted by frosty zoom at 09/07/2008 @ 02:58am
Posted by man00ver at 09/06/2008 @ 11:18pm
McCain will increase jobs,
••••• but wait a second. REPUBLICAN'T administrations have a worse job creation record than the DEMOCRUMBLES.
boost the economy,
••••• hahaha! THE FED IS INTENTIONALLY HOLDING RATES DOWN NOW TO GET MR. MCCAIN INTO THE WHITE HOUSE. the credits dried up and come january,
CRUNCH!
and improve national security in very short order with his energy policy.
••••• you mean like he's b